Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[HyeFighter2]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

We should built large concrete bunkers with machine gun nests (WWII German style). Also mine 100 or 200 meters wide into neutral zone (I call it Dead man Zone).
Can it be done? is it pratctical in our case

the near future plans are to place electronic modules with NSV and radars. MOD working on that question already.

right now its large number of NSV and Kord machine guns, Mortars and some radars

[Artashes]

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Nobody can figure out what's behind Hakobyan and Mnatsakanyan trading positions. Anybody here have a clue?

I'm gonna miss Hakobyan's videos from the front line. Hope Mnatsakanyan is not camera-shy either.

I have a clue.
Artsahk initially wanted to *** unify *** with Armenia.
The goofball politics of the day prevented this. So in the worlds eye we have one of our marz as a country, lol.
We however know better. We are one peoples and one country.
The conduct we are seeing is part of the initial steps of reunification .
By the time Artsahk and Armenia join publicly, the transition will be 99% already completed.
We are in essence ignoring the world politic BS and acting like one country.
We know what we are going to do, and I think the world knows what it can do with its "a-hole" act.

[Tsov]

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I have a clue.
Artsahk initially wanted to *** unify *** with Armenia.
The goofball politics of the day prevented this. So in the worlds eye we have one of our marz as a country, lol.
We however know better. We are one peoples and one country.
The conduct we are seeing is part of the initial steps of reunification .
By the time Artsahk and Armenia join publicly, the transition will be 99% already completed.
We are in essence ignoring the world politic BS and acting like one country.
We know what we are going to do, and I think the world knows what it can do with its "a-hole" act.

No the world still sees Artsakh as part of Azerbaijan. Because of this we need the Artsakh government to represent the Artsakh Armenians in the negotiation process and are working towards this. The government of Armenia can't do that for them.

[Artashes]

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The first word in your sentence Tsov is "no" , and then you discribe why "technically " Artsahk has to represent itself and why Armenia can't represent Artsahk .
If you reread my post, you'll see I haven't disputed that, but in fact have acknowledged that.
Reread the post man. I said Hayastan doesn't give a fk, and is acting like its one country, dispite and possibly also inspite of world jerk act.
It does --- NOT --- matter whether an Armenian comes from any of the marz ... Tavush or Artsahk etc, the president , defence minister or whatever. (period).
We are in real time conducting our affairs (Hayastan /Artsahk) as one nation.
The rest is for world show / politicle jerk off act (and) nothing more.
Armenia and Artsahk --- ARE --- conducting their affairs as unified as if we were one country.
**** ALL **** the rest is for public (world politic) consumption .
That's all.
The two are acting in tight coordination , exactly as if they ARE one country.
That's why Artsahk people are president & defence minister and people from both places interchange !!!!! As if !!!!! They were from the same country!!!!!!!!
The Artsahk / Armenia thing is only for politicle world garbage --- BUT --- in fact we are already operating **** completly**** unified.

[Tsov]

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The first word in your sentence Tsov is "no" , and then you discribe why "technically " Artsahk has to represent itself and why Armenia can't represent Artsahk .
If you reread my post, you'll see I haven't disputed that, but in fact have acknowledged that.
Reread the post man. I said Hayastan doesn't give a fk, and is acting like its one country, dispite and possibly also inspite of world jerk act.
It does --- NOT --- matter whether an Armenian comes from any of the marz ... Tavush or Artsahk etc, the president , defence minister or whatever. (period).
We are in real time conducting our affairs (Hayastan /Artsahk) as one nation.
The rest is for world show / politicle jerk off act (and) nothing more.
Armenia and Artsahk --- ARE --- conducting their affairs as unified as if we were one country.
**** ALL **** the rest is for public (world politic) consumption .
That's all.
The two are acting in tight coordination , exactly as if they ARE one country.
That's why Artsahk people are president & defence minister and people from both places interchange !!!!! As if !!!!! They were from the same country!!!!!!!!
The Artsahk / Armenia thing is only for politicle world garbage --- BUT --- in fact we are already operating **** completly**** unified.

Yeah this is the problem. The Armenian government has acted very recklessly in regards to the legitimassy of the Artsakh Republic. It has cost us the rightfull place of the Artsakh government on the negotiation table, while Artsakh was one of the signatories to the ceasefire agreement.

It's very likely that we will have to pay a high price for these actions because they have delegitimised Artsakh.

Ever since Artsakh declared independence in 1991 it was supposed to be a state fully cappable of representing itself, but instead the Armenians have played into the Turkish hands by delegitimising Artsakh. The Turks always did their best to present the conflict as them against the Armenian government and not against the Artsakh Armenians, because that situation is more favorable to them to demand the conflict be solved in favor of the Turks.

Armenians have helped them by the actions you just listed, which made Artsakh lose its legitimasy and the Armenians as a whole are now setback in the negotiation process.

Even many Armenians like you now think Artsakh being a state is a joke. While it's actually a serious matter very important for us. We should do everything to try and give the Artsakh government legitimacy and not try to taint its legitimacy, because that only suits the Turks.

[Artashes]

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Yeah this is the problem. The Armenian government has acted very recklessly in regards to the legitimassy of the Artsakh Republic. It has cost us the rightfull place of the Artsakh government on the negotiation table, while Artsakh was one of the signatories to the ceasefire agreement.

It's very likely that we will have to pay a high price for these actions because they have delegitimised Artsakh.

Ever since Artsakh declared independence in 1991 it was supposed to be a state fully cappable of representing itself, but instead the Armenians have played into the Turkish hands by delegitimising Artsakh. The Turks always did their best to present the conflict as them against the Armenian government and not against the Artsakh Armenians, because that situation is more favorable to them to demand the conflict be solved in favor of the Turks.

Armenians have helped them by the actions you just listed, which made Artsakh lose its legitimasy and the Armenians as a whole are now setback in the negotiation process.

Even many Armenians like you now think Artsakh being a state is a joke. While it's actually a serious matter very important for us. We should do everything to try and give the Artsakh government legitimacy and not try to taint its legitimacy, because that only suits the Turks.

I completly disagree with you. Absolutely disagree.
For all intents and purposes to the world, Artsahk is a whole nother country.
--- deligitimizing Artsahk --- ???????
Not remotely. Try the TRUTH. Artsahk has been strengthened by the coordinated conduct of Hayastan & Artsahk.
---- benificial to the hominoids who call themselves turcees????? Artsahk lose ligitimacy????
(a) fk the hominoids
(b) Artsahk is gaining strength by the day.
(c) Artsahk / Armenia --- TOOK ---- their legitimacy by force AND we retain that legitimacy and strengthen that ligitimacy every day *** because *** we say so. No consultation whatsoever with anyone else.
As I said ... We play the game but we move forward as one people.
You (Tsov) are completly wrong.
The proof is staring you in the face. -----Our conduct -----
You could not find and artsahkian that thinks they have been ???? Deligitimized???? Since the end of the first war. Not one. They have been strengthened.
This conduct of blurring the lines between Artsahk and Hayastan will (absolutely) continue *** unabated ***.
Don't know where your comming from other than to follow what the fraudulent world spews out.
Artsahk has lost nothing ... Zip , zero , nilch , etc.
And they are not going to.
Armenia/Artsahk are in the drivers seat , don't be fooled by anything else .
The decisions made about who is defense minister or any other posts are **** ALL HAYASTAN **** decisions , and no one else got jack sht to say about that.
No one else was even consulted (lol).
Here is the reason why ... Cause we didn't & don't give a fk what they think. Those are our decision not anyone else's.
Things are going to continue just as they are.

[Eddo211]

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Yeah this is the problem. The Armenian government has acted very recklessly in regards to the legitimassy of the Artsakh Republic. It has cost us the rightfull place of the Artsakh government on the negotiation table, while Artsakh was one of the signatories to the ceasefire agreement.

It's very likely that we will have to pay a high price for these actions because they have delegitimised Artsakh.

Ever since Artsakh declared independence in 1991 it was supposed to be a state fully cappable of representing itself, but instead the Armenians have played into the Turkish hands by delegitimising Artsakh. The Turks always did their best to present the conflict as them against the Armenian government and not against the Artsakh Armenians, because that situation is more favorable to them to demand the conflict be solved in favor of the Turks.....

Artsakh must be on the negotiating table and I don't see why its late......Like Artashes said. "We are one Country" however I prefer Artsakh has its own independence and recognized as a state.
We Armenians need two states.....even though for us its one.


Tsov....you have a funny name.

[Artashes]

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Artsakh must be on the negotiating table and I don't see why its late......Like Artashes said. "We are one Country" however I prefer Artsakh has its own independence and recognized as a state.
We Armenians need two states.....even though for us its one.


Tsov....you have a funny name.

---- we Armenians need two states ..... Even though for us it's one ----
Disagree.
We Armenians are being compelled by world jk off act to have two states.
We don't need that except to comply with world jimmy jack act. That and that alone is the only reason for this two state nonsense.
Our coordinated response is the conduct you see right now.
It's going to continue.
For sure.

[Eddo211]

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There are way too may advantages of having two states that it out weighs everything else.......two state solution is our struggle, not something the Turks or the West or even Russians would like to see or pushing for.

[Artashes]

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There are way too may advantages of having two states that it out weighs everything else.......two state solution is our struggle, not something the Turks or the West or even Russians would like to see or pushing for.

Again totally disagree.
The advantages of having two states (now) is twofold , (1) to appease conniving world (for the moment) and (2) for Armenia to have more weapons than declared.
That's it.
There is no advantage to to having our country split. And in fact we are not split except for world perceptions.
Te turcs or west or Russia OBVIOUSLY want two states and not one. You got that backwards.
The two state thing is pat and parcel with -- divide an conquer -- slick act.
Whatever anyone says, we are reuniting in action now and publicly when time is right. That IS what's taking place now.
None, turc, west or Russia is hoping for a united Armenia , (except) for a premature unification . Otherwise they fear our unification.
I often think we should have each marz declare independence and proclaim they are each an independent Armenian country, and then we unite as a federated Armenian countries and then we unite as the independent federated Armenian nations of Hayastan .
Fk the jerks.
After all the talking , we are one country. Also that's most efficient.
Nakijivan is next.
And then ...