Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Haykakan]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Yes but Russia sees Turkey as a reliable ally who buys 58% of its gas from Russia.

While she slaughters turks in Syria....I swear people are so retarded. Almost a century of no Turkish invasion thanks to Russian protection and idiots still do not understand xxxx. I want to see how this could have happened without Russia? No you have no answers, ever, never, but hey don't let that stop you from pissing on the only one who guards you. Yeh we have no real airforce now and without Russia you think we would? On what budget? How? ... I am sure logic and reason are far above your comprehension but do not worry USA will arm ISIS and they will surely protect all Armenians...

[burjuin]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[burjuin]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[armnuke]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

While she slaughters turks in Syria....I swear people are so retarded. Almost a century of no Turkish invasion thanks to Russian protection and idiots still do not understand xxxx. I want to see how this could have happened without Russia? No you have no answers, ever, never, but hey don't let that stop you from pissing on the only one who guards you. Yeh we have no real airforce now and without Russia you think we would? On what budget? How? ... I am sure logic and reason are far above your comprehension but do not worry USA will arm ISIS and they will surely protect all Armenians...

You mad bro?

[armnuke]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

While she slaughters turks in Syria....I swear people are so retarded. Almost a century of no Turkish invasion thanks to Russian protection and idiots still do not understand xxxx. I want to see how this could have happened without Russia? No you have no answers, ever, never, but hey don't let that stop you from pissing on the only one who guards you. Yeh we have no real airforce now and without Russia you think we would? On what budget? How? ... I am sure logic and reason are far above your comprehension but do not worry USA will arm ISIS and they will surely protect all Armenians...

Oh..and where in my sentence did I talk about USA?

[Spetsnaz]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Really! sounds like an vassal


When those two turkish military helicopters entered Armenian air space recently and stayed for three minutes while we did not respond. And you like regional air defense system is significant news. that is bull crap

Armenian air defense and air force has to function properly in the first place, and that is more significant to Armenian people.

Those helicopters:
1) Werent armed
2) Transport Helis
Even if they entered for 3 minutes ( Although they confirmed that it was due to the bad weather conditions) Can you imagine if we shot them down then what would it happen ?

We are not cowards. im more than sure that if those were attack helis and were armed it was downed after the second warning. but we do not need any tense situation with Turkey, At least now.
Just know that any war plane to enter Armenia's air space is a matter of 3-4 minutes to be shot down.

[burjuin]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Armenian Army
Special forces

[Hakob]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Really! sounds like an vassal




When those two turkish military helicopters entered Armenian air space recently and stayed for three minutes while we did not respond. And you like regional air defense system is significant news. that is bull crap

Armenian air defense and air force has to function properly in the first place, and that is more significant to Armenian people.

Many countries with Armenia's size and economy don't have and cannot even afford to have any air defense to put up against a NATO country.
Nowadays every viable air defense in world, especially even Europe can only accomplish defense as part of larger group.
Even countries like Poland are part of NATO system.
So unified air defense is not a bull crap ( if you keep your level of control).

[ArmeniaSacra]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

I read all your comments, here are a few points i want to make:

1. As I read in the news when the turkish helis entered, russian MiG-29s were dispatched but the helis left our skies before they could reach them.

2. I know some Armenians are so enthusiastic in shooting down turkish helicopters but face it, you can't just shoot down turkish helis without a proper warning..some guys here remind me of John McCain, the invincible american who thinks he'll conquer Iran in 1 day. Turkey is a major power and we know that...those helis did not have any aggressive posture, they left quickly, the turks clarified that it was a weather issue...you just don't shoot every aircraft that enters your airspace. To be more detailed, it usually takes ground control a few minutes to identify an aircraft...some of u have the idea that there's an imaginary line which when something crosses our missiles would be fired to destroy it! It's not like that...you have to identify the aircraft 1st...what if they were civilian helicopters which lost their way and you shot them down? What then?...before we identified them they left the airspace...no harms done...keep calm and stop acting like rambo..

3. Russia's in a business relationship with azerbaijan and turkey...if you expect a country like Russia to stop its multibillion dollar deals so that some "over enthusiastic" armenians feel better...you're mistaken. Armenia is Russia's ally...and Russia's presence in Armenia has kept both azeris and turks at bay for the past 21 years...please tell me how were you planning to defend armenia against turkey and azerbaijan for the past 2 decades without Russia? Or how you plan to do it without Russia's support for the coming 40 years? How are you planning to build and maintain a multibillion dollar army that can fight against 1 million active turkish/azeri soldiers without proper supply lines? If you don't have a plan for that...zip your mouth and let our relationship with Armenia continue without you nonsense comments...

Finally, Armenians in general would live in a much better country if our people (both in Armenia and diaspora) understand that there are no "zero sum" games in politics. Russia can court azerbaijan but prevent it from attacking us at the same time...relationship between countries are based on interests, the sooner our people grasp it, the better life would be for all of us. And frankly said...despite the fact that i have major reservations towards the current leadership in Armenia in terms of economic strategies...i have to say politically speaking...what they're accomplishing in terms of balance between a rising "power hungry" russia (which is more like a regional bully), a europe which promises but doesn't deliver and a US that is doing it's best to fund internal strifes...in a neighborhood where we're surrounded by turks and georgians...i think they are doing a great job!

[Haykakan]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

"...i have to say politically speaking...what they're accomplishing in terms of balance between a rising "power hungry" russia (which is more like a regional bully), a europe which promises but doesn't deliver and a US that is doing it's best to fund internal strifes...in a neighborhood where we're surrounded by turks and georgians...i think they are doing a great job! "
Well said!