Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[AstalaVist]

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Russia avoids risks by not giving serious arms to Armenia

Baku, Azerbaijan, Feb. 20

By Elmira Tariverdiyeva – Trend:

Despite numerous speculations over Russia’s heavy weapons supply to Armenia as part of a recently signed $200-million loan, the expectations didn’t come true.

Russia didn’t take risks and decided not to supply heavy weapons to Armenia despite the deteriorating situation in the region after its conflict with Turkey.

Back in July 2015, before the loan deal was signed, various reports suggested that Russia decided to supply the Iskander-M tactical ballistic missiles to Armenia.

Armenian media even recently reported that Moscow and Yerevan discussed a possible supply of three IL-76 military transport planes, as well as the newly designed Su-30SM multi-purpose fighters and simulators for these fighters to Armenia.

Armenia, which has no modern aircraft, was so overwhelmed that even Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan rushed to confirm the reports.

However, to avoid any further speculation, a list of weapons was released Feb. 18 by the Russian Legal Information Agency. To Armenia’s great dismay, neither Iskander-M, nor SU-30SM fighters are included to the list.

The list begins with the Smerch multiple rocket launchers, but that didn’t impress anyone. For instance, Azerbaijan has 12 of that weapon.

There is also the TOS-1A thermobaric rocket launcher in the list, but that is nothing new for the region.

In short, it seems that apart from a large number of KAMAZ trucks, the Armenian army will get nothing paying back the loan, which will be very difficult for Armenia’s dying economy.

Hilarious

[Hakob]

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Russian blazing sun: TOS-1A? With cluster heads?

[burjuin]

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Nagorno-Karabakh Defense Army
In the frontline

[Aslanov]

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"For instance, Azerbaijan has 12 of that weapon."

Azerbaijan has 30 of them, 12 bought in mid 2000s from Ukraine and 18 bought from Russia in 2012 (they are distinguishable as well because of different chassis). Azerbaijan has also 18 TOS-1A on T-90 chassis.

As for the rhetoric, it's true that the amount and nomenclature is not as "serious" as you would like to believe. The argument of "we buy in CSTO prices" is an exaggeration as the discount is not THAT huge, but according to here they should be 10% of export price (that's the impression from posts). And looking at the full list the fund will be spread to include several things.

If this deal satisfies Armenia's question of "why are you (Russia) selling weapons to Azerbajan?", then good for them.

[armnuke]

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I don't really take Scuds too serious. As we seen before(and now in Yemen) it's really easy to neutralize them in the air. I don't even want to mention about their accuracy problem. It's just hilarious for a ballistic missile.

Tochkas are going to be more useful for us. We have to buy more of them in the feature.

Go to 1:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY9pni7lSkA
He says test showed the missile displacement was 85 meters horizontally and 120 meters vertically.

[armnuke]

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"For instance, Azerbaijan has 12 of that weapon."

Azerbaijan has 30 of them, 12 bought in mid 2000s from Ukraine and 18 bought from Russia in 2012 (they are distinguishable as well because of different chassis). Azerbaijan has also 18 TOS-1A on T-90 chassis.

As for the rhetoric, it's true that the amount and nomenclature is not as serious as your delusion would lead you to believe. The argument of "we buy in CSTO prices" is a exaggeration as the discount is not as huge as you would think, but according to here they should be 10% of export price (that's the impression from posts). And looking at the full list the fund will be spread to include several things for the sum of only $200 million.

Let's be clear..The $200 million Russian loan to Armenia is small potatoes for domestic consumption. A lot more is done behind the scenes.

[Ak105]

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I am from Beirut as well.
I moved to Yerevan in September 2014 for good. I have zero regrets. It was an amazing decision.

Im from Gyumri, but moved 10 years ago. I really miss Armenia sometimes, especially Yerevan.

[armnuke]

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Im from Gyumri, but moved 10 years ago. I really miss Armenia sometimes, especially Yerevan.

Many Armenians I know from Lebanon will come/came to Armenia. Most bought apartments and lands.

[armo12]

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Many Armenians I know from Lebanon will come/came to Armenia. Most bought apartments and lands.

This may be off topic but how can i use the private message feature?

[burjuin]

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Military medics at the shooting range