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**HyeSocialist** · 04-06-2016, 07:27 AM

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Originally posted by AbuSindi View Post

These Bastards violated the cease fire. 2 of our soldiers killed!

http://armlur.am/512616/

Hi there, just in case you missed the passed 22 years of ceasefire, they are the only ones who break it. If you haven't missed the last week, they pretty much broke the real ceasefire and tried establishing their own bull xxxx ceasefire to somehow hold onto gains.

**Hakob** · 04-06-2016, 07:32 AM

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Originally posted by armnuke View Post

Armenia President: A pity that Russia and other CSTO countries sell weapons to Azerbaijan

Russia is our strategic ally, we are CSTO (Collective Security Treaty Organization) member countries, and it is truly regrettable for us that not only Russia, but also other members of the same organization sell weapons to Azerbaijan.

The President of Armenia, Serzh Sargsyan, on Wednesday stated the aforesaid at his joint news conference, in Berlin, with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

He added that Armenia has a limited capacity to have any bearing on this process.

�Azerbaijan has modern weapons, and the [recent] three-day military actions [in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict zone] showed that it uses them,� Sargsyan stressed. �But strength is not in the modernity of the weapons and in the [number of] tanks, but in the faith which the Karabakh�and in general, the Armenian�people have; the faith that the homeland must be defended.

�You see how our [Armenian] society manifested itself [during these hostilities]. In Azerbaijan, you will not find [any] information about casualties. The three-day tension showed that the best societies also know to fight well.�

CSTO is coming closer and closer to being an sbsolete and empty word, and Russia itself is behind this. Now chicken come home to roost.
Because Russia sold arms to Azerbaijan, other members are pretty self fulfilling in their positions. It almost does not have any bearing if CSTO or not.
Russia created CSTO to counter NATO. But is killing it itself with greed and double games.
And as members find no tangible benefits in it, like we learned in past week, they will treat it less and less seriously.
NATO and EU are coming in play.
Serj is in Germany!!!

**HyeSocialist** · 04-06-2016, 07:32 AM

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Originally posted by Joseph View Post

http://regnum.ru/news/polit/2112762.html

Putin once again saves Aliyev. What for?

What does the article say?

Gentlemen, Russia has already everything it needs from Armenia: unconditional patronage. From Azerbaijan it stands to lose everything to Turkey. They will do whatever it takes to keep Azeris a client.

**HyeSocialist** · 04-06-2016, 07:36 AM

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Originally posted by Hakob View Post

CSTO is coming closer and closer to being an sbsolete and empty word, and Russia itself is behind this. Now chicken come home to roost.
Because Russia sold arms to Azerbaijan, other members are pretty self fulfilling in their positions. It almost does not have any bearing if CSTO or not.
Russia created CSTO to counter NATO. But is killing it itself with greed and double games.
And as members find no tangible benefits in it, like we learned in past week, they will treat it less and less seriously.
NATO and EU are coming in play.
Serj is in Germany!!!

They xxxxed up by attacking Ukraine. That's when this whole thing unraveled and that's when energy prices started to collapse. The high and mighty Putin even happily did business with the Turks.

**Joseph** · 04-06-2016, 07:36 AM

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Originally posted by HyeSocialist View Post

What does the article say?

Gentlemen, Russia has already everything it needs from Armenia: unconditional patronage. From Azerbaijan it stands to lose everything to Turkey. They will do whatever it takes to keep Azeris a client.

I'll see if I can get it translated

**Joseph** · 04-06-2016, 07:38 AM

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

More Azeri corpses:

PAN Photo- and DroDrone- has pictures of enemy special forces left corpses in northeastern Artsakh

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**Hakob** · 04-06-2016, 07:38 AM

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Originally posted by Hakob View Post

CSTO is coming closer and closer to being an sbsolete and empty word, and Russia itself is behind this. Now chicken come home to roost.
Because Russia sold arms to Azerbaijan, other members are pretty self fulfilling in their positions. It almost does not have any bearing if CSTO or not.
Russia created CSTO to counter NATO. But is killing it itself with greed and double games.
And as members find no tangible benefits in it, like we learned in past week, they will treat it less and less seriously.
NATO and EU are coming in play.
Serj is in Germany!!!

Some might say "how about weapons that Russia gave us?". I consider that a result of Armenia/Russia bilateral relations not CSTO

**Artsakh** · 04-06-2016, 07:41 AM

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Originally posted by HyeSocialist View Post

What does the article say?

Gentlemen, Russia has already everything it needs from Armenia: unconditional patronage. From Azerbaijan it stands to lose everything to Turkey. They will do whatever it takes to keep Azeris a client.

I agree. They may try to "balance things out," as they the Russians themselves put it, according to their official state policy. That Serj is in Germany and not Russia may be another sign of their duplicity.

To put matters into perspective, what we had during the years of the first republic was what we had during these past 4 days, the difference being we were at war on our western front as well with the Ottomans, and then the Russian Bolsheviks also decided to join in on the attacks. And it was not thanks to the Russians that under those circumstances we managed to preserve Zangezur either. I don't want to get engaged in this talk now, but the fact that Russian policy is self-serving is non-disputable. We cannot place any hopes on them. And that's not to say the west is any better.