Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[armnuke]

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Because diaspora knows their money would disappear the minute it arrives in Armenia. and people wonder why Armenia is still poor. It's easier to just blame the turks or Russians than admit we wasted the past 20 years.

what if I told you I've been here since september 2014 and my money is multiplying in a lovely fashion as I'm typing this message?

[burjuin]

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Frontline: the Story of the Soldiers and Azeri Aggression
2016-04-5

[Eddo211]

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Btw while we're offtopic can someone please explain why Monte helped overthrow the Shah during the revolution?

The Shah was selling/giving away Iranian oil (high grade) and in short he was selling Iran to the Western countries. He was groomed by English to take over Iran. The Shah was a good man and was trying slowly to gain control of Iranian assets and oil. Too little too late. CIA ops out of US embacy with complete diplomatic immunity.
The government was Nationalist. t was the nationalists who sold that small peace of land that connects Turkey to Nakichevan.

An Islamic Iran, as bad as they are to their people, they know history and will not except Turkish bulldust. They respect Armenians. They see us as ancient friends.

NKR and Tabriz is of big concern to Iran right now.

[armnuke]

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[Mher]

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You dont need Iran nor any third country to be successful in anything, look to all this successful Diaspora around the world, in management, manufacturing, you just need to give the people the chance " yev garavaroutiounuh ortax tchella hedernin"
Last year when i was driving to Stepanakerd from Yerevan i saw this huge huge empty lands on the way, (i think it was Sissian-goris) i thought why the hell they dont plant fruits vegetables here, and export, to the surrounding countries....

Because diaspora knows their money would disappear the minute it arrives in Armenia. and people wonder why Armenia is still poor. It's easier to just blame the turks or Russians than admit we wasted the past 20 years.

Honestly I had a long detailed response to this moronic bullsh-t, but even at twenty five years old, I'm exhausted at dealing with you people and your ignorance. Go back and take a high school economics class. And while you're at it, make sure whoever taught it to you in the first place gets fired.

And please, if you really do care about Armenia, STOP PARTICIPATING. because you are hurting Armenia more than any Turk ever could.

and mr arakeretzig, especially you, please

just stop

[Bigdikran]

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Honestly I had a long detailed response to this moronic bullsh-t, but even at twenty five years old, I'm exhausted at dealing with you people and your ignorance. Go back and take a high school economics class. And while you're at it, make sure whoever taught it to you in the first place gets fired.

And please, if you really do care about Armenia, STOP PARTICIPATING. because you are hurting Armenia more than any Turk ever could.

and mr arakeretzig, especially you, please

just stop

Mher, we are just discussing here, stop being emotional, no one is hurting Armenia, everybody here wants the best for our motherland, if there wasn't a problem, there wouldn't be an immigration, and yes i do understand that our borders are closed in 2 ways, but still there's a problem that the government can find a solution if they stop their greediness !
When i was in Yerevan, i was curious to open a store in Yerevan (related to my business) the import tax was 34% plus 20%, and the product is not even manufactured in Armenia, so it could compete with Armenian products

[Joseph]

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In my opinion, while it's very great to hear these first hand accounts and I do appreciate having heard it, I think it would be a smart idea to always be cautious. A lot of this is an information war. While all of us know it's bullsh-t, but the fact remains, it's a political charade we need to play, and pretend that we don't do such things. Talking about us performing raids, and bombing doesn't look very good, specially when in reality we do have the moral high ground, and wouldn't have to resort to these things if these animals just left us alone. So perhaps in the future, it would be a smart idea to at least write it in Armenian. And I don't mean Armenian letters. Write in english letters in Armenian words, so it can't be translated either. And it's not necessarily about what you said. Just as an overall guide for everyone. It would be smart to use that in the future.

I respectfully disagree. This information gives us a good account of the action on the front, troops standing and high morale. After everything the Azeris have done over the years coupled with the disinterest internationally, I don't think it hurts. And to confess, my Armenian is lacking.

[Joseph]

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Since the off topic train is rolling, I will take the opportunity to reply.

The import tax is 10% on most items and VAT is 20%. Imported products should be more expensive so that local production won't be hindered. You got it all wrong. Or probably that's your understanding of local production vs imported products, since even cheese and mayonnaise are imported where you are.

Almost all Lebanese do not pay profit tax, salary tax, or excise tax. All of them keep 2 books and show the cooked one to the tax inspector. Or a $50 bill would solve the tax issue altogether. You guys are used to that system. When the tax inspector comes to collect taxes in Armenia, you start screaming "mafia..mafia..mafia". If you don't pay taxes, how is the government going to balance the budget? Mind you, Saudi Arabia or Iran are not the ones who are going to balance our budget or replenish the hard currency in our central bank like they do where you are.

In Lebanon, the Armenian community is brainwashed with the imaginary mafia term. When I was moving to Armenia, every Armenian in Lebanon warned me about the so-called mafia..from my barber, to the guy from whom I bought the air tickets, to my closest relatives.

One person even told me not to open a bank account, because the bank won't return my money.

Another person told me not to buy a car from a local Armenian, because before handing me the car they would change the engine and transmission with a broken one.

You know what? Now I'm in Yerevan, I own 4 apartments in the very center and rent it to tourists. I also own 15 hectares of land near the airport.

My bank automatically transferred me to the VIP section without my request, and their service is better than banking will ever be in Lebanon.

I am here since September 2014 and 10 Drams have not been stolen or lost.

The badmouth about Armenia in Lebanon is false propaganda by the three Armenian political parties, because if many Armenians from Lebanon move to Armenia, no one will end up voting for them.

I agree. I'm in the hospitality business on the financial side and all the hotels in Armenia are doing well and never complain about any gov't interference.I also know that FAR (Fund for Armenian Relief) by the Diocese used to be geared only towards aid but is really getting into agro-business, SME development, helping start-ups, etc. TUMO is another great example. Armenia is has a way to go but I believe the level of corruption is overblown.

[armnuke]

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I agree. I'm in the hospitality business on the financial side and all the hotels in Armenia are doing well and never complain about any gov't interference.I also know that FAR (Fund for Armenian Relief) by the Diocese used to be geared only towards aid but is really getting into agro-business, SME development, helping start-ups, etc. TUMO is another great example. Armenia is has a way to go but I believe the level of corruption is overblown.

Badmouthing will not make Armenia great again. If Armenia is not great, we will be brought down to our knees by the Turks. I wish people would work on making a small investment. Even a $5000 bank account in drams will help. There is corruption, but it's not Somalia.

[arakeretzig]

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Badmouthing will not make Armenia great again. If Armenia is not great, we will be brought down to our knees by the Turks. I wish people would work on making a small investment. Even a $5000 bank account in drams will help. There is corruption, but it's not Somalia.

Lets not kid ourselves. Small businesses are not interesting anymore to the mafia. Its not the 1990s. Its the big investments they are after.