Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[londontsi]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Simply bizarre.

Are our soldiers giving their last rights or what.

Shouldn't they be preparing and strengthening defensive lines rather than digging crosses in the ground.

So primitive self delusion.

I get more and more frustrated by the actions of our leadership.

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[Artashes]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Simply bizarre.

Are our soldiers giving their last rights or what.

Shouldn't they be preparing and strengthening defensive lines rather than digging crosses in the ground.

So primitive self delusion.

I get more and more frustrated by the actions of our leadership.

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Disagree.
If you follow step by step the training of the us navy seals or any other elite force, you will find deep rooted "primitive" behavior training. Combat (lethal) stems from primitive and is literally passed down from generation to generation.
Stupidity and warfare go hand in hand since day one.
I understand what you are saying, but upon close examination you'll find out --- all--- elite forces have "odd" indoctinal procedures of a cultural or primitivel nature.
Consistently without exception.

[londontsi]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Disagree.
If you follow step by step the training of the us navy seals or any other elite force, you will find deep rooted "primitive" behavior training. Combat (lethal) stems from primitive and is literally passed down from generation to generation.
Stupidity and warfare go hand in hand since day one.
I understand what you are saying, but upon close examination you'll find out --- all--- elite forces have "odd" indoctinal procedures of a cultural or primitivel nature.
Consistently without exception.

Hmmmmm........

[londontsi]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Disagree.
If you follow step by step the training of the us navy seals or any other elite force, you will find deep rooted "primitive" behavior training. Combat (lethal) stems from primitive and is literally passed down from generation to generation.
Stupidity and warfare go hand in hand since day one.
I understand what you are saying, but upon close examination you'll find out --- all--- elite forces have "odd" indoctinal procedures of a cultural or primitivel nature.
Consistently without exception.

On second thought it is a good idea because if we put the responsibility for our failures on God then we can only blame God and not our leaders.

We already have a very popular song which translated says "Where were you God when your people was being slaughtered", yes "your people".

We do not even have to write a song about it, its already written.

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[burjuin]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

2nd Karabakh war. Nagorno-Karabakh Defense Army

[Hakob]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Simply bizarre.

Are our soldiers giving their last rights or what.

Shouldn't they be preparing and strengthening defensive lines rather than digging crosses in the ground.

So primitive self delusion.

I get more and more frustrated by the actions of our leadership.

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You and me will have a hard time anderstanding the utility of this kind of conduct. But the fact that our soldiers have shown the highest kind of courage and valor in battle, can explain this.
Whatever they do must be important. Remember sentimental values are the main glue of society.
Honor, dedication, honesty, dependability, sacrifice, valor etc. etc.
Those are all reinforced with simbolicas. Without it, it can be everybody for themselfs. Desertion, corruption etc.

[Hakob]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

On second thought it is a good idea because if we put the responsibility for our failures on God then we can only blame God and not our leaders.

We already have a very popular song which translated says "Where were you God when your people was being slaughtered", yes "your people".

We do not even have to write a song about it, its already written.

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Actually Artur Meschian's song was meant to brake the reliance on God and religion in defending our nation. Remember centuries old national belief that other Christian nations would some day save Armenia from Muslim occupation?
This belief started shaking from Berlin conference on and was greatly stamped out during early 20th century revolutions.
Njdeh's ideology of self reliance took roots in us.
Meschian's song is not a complaint in God but a complaint in us in believing that God will protect people who behave like sheep. That is how we understood this song in 70's.
Now the religion in Armenians has come a full circle to reflect national needs. Church is preaching that it is gods will for believing Armenians to take up arms and protect their motherland and faith.
This is important since there are many sects trying to spread in Armenia that suppress national behavior and encourage young people in avoiding military service.
Actually belief in God brings a self reliance and stumps out fear(much needed). No more believing in allies or international goodwill. Only us and God.
Thru out ages our church was involved in governance and politics like our government now.
Only in Vardanant's war was complete religious dedication and readiness for war.
Hopefully now we will have similar mentality.

[burjuin]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Նորաստեղծ «Հայդուկ» կամավորական ջոկատը

[arakeretzig]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

http://panarmenian.net/m/eng/news/215827

June 29, 2016 - 13:25 AMT

Armenia can use Russian jets, S-300s in joint air-defense system: official

Does this mean what it says or they formulated it in a weird way....

[armnuke]

Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

Lebanese newspaper refers to Armenia as "Impoverished" and "surrendering country's sovereignty" in their article about the joint Air Defense.

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/World/2016/Jun-30/359899-armenia-ratifies-agreement-on-joint-air-defence-system-with-russia.ashx