Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[haydavid]

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The Azerbaijani Manat hit a record low of 1.90 yesterday, today it's down nearly 2 percent!

This is so great because their government is using so much money , trying to keep it stable but they still fail.It's not even the natural exchange rate of the mana yet , since the government is doing everything to ban Azeri people from buying dollars.
On the black market the exchange rate is well beyond the 2 USD/AZN
Their dollar reserves are dissapearing faster than their oil and this means less money to buy weapons for them

[Etchmiadzin]

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This is so great because their government is using so much money , trying to keep it stable but they still fail.It's not even the natural exchange rate of the mana yet , since the government is doing everything to ban Azeri people from buying dollars.
On the black market the exchange rate is well beyond the 2 USD/AZN
Their dollar reserves are dissapearing faster than their oil and this means less money to buy weapons for them

Its going to cost them xxxx tons to import food i dont think their agriculture is developed enough to feed all of them.

[Hakob]

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What we need to do is accept that Western Armenia is gone. It's painful but it's the truth. This Generation and maybe the next won't see it. The only way you gain territory is through war and we cannot fight Turkey and we don't have any ally that will. We need to strengthen our borders , Army and Economy. At the same time encourage couples to have more children. In Artsakh women receive $5000 for every child. Maybe they should do the same in Armenia. I think we would see a spike in population. Maybe one day when we are a populates country that benefits the world we shall talk about historical lands. It's pointless at the moment. Everybody knows that Turks are invaders but sadly they are respected greater then it's oppressed. Let us just learn from this.
Victimization only works for those who have power.

I agree because we need to concentrate in keeping and rejuvenating what we got.
But I don't exclude the possibility that in near future, we may have to deal with Kurds about western Armenia, not Turks. With those we may find a compromise that satisfies us.
Maybe!

[HyeSocialist]

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I agree because we need to concentrate in keeping and rejuvenating what we got.
But I don't exclude the possibility that in near future, we may have to deal with Kurds about western Armenia, not Turks. With those we may find a compromise that satisfies us.
Maybe!

Armenia is run purely to serve the interests of oligarchs and Russia.

Nagorno Karabakh is an actual country with a history. It is the story of an oppressed people fighting for independence, gaining their independence, and building a sovreign state with their own institutions. That's what a country is.

Armenia did not win any war of independence. Armenia did not build national institutions in the wake of independence designed for a sovreign state. It just "inherited" the same failed structures the soviets had. A lot of the people in charge and a lot of Armenians still keep bringing up the Soviet Union. It is a failed, gone concept that is still being used by many Armenians as some kind of xxxxing model. They still run this anti-liberal, anti-market, anti-global mindset that keeps Armenia a poor nation.

With that mindset, Armenia is choosing to be more like North Korea than South Korea. The best example I can give to my fellow Armenians is the Korean peninsula. We can either choose this backwards, nonsensical approach adopted by Russia, the Russia that can't build a car or a toothbrush, and remain insular. OR, we can adopt a more gobal mindset, build an export oriented economy, and progress alongside the world. Say what you will about the "evil, liberal, lgbt loving, "shekelist" west. People would much rather live there than Russia, Saudi Arabia, or hell even Poland and Hungary. But if it makes you conservative Armenians feel good to be conservative a$$holes, go for it. You're only harming yourself by not keeping up with the rest of the world.

[burjuin]

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Nagorno-Karabakh Air Defence

[Artashes]

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^^^^
Above post by HyeSocialist.
You are very clear in which choice you would like to see our nation take. Your reasoning is also very clear and easy to understand.
I don't agree with it.
The concept of socialism or communism was a noble idea. The attempted application of this noble idea was so grossly mishandled as to be criminal.
To compare the idea or concept of capitalism to the idea or concept of communism is like comparing a smoke filled back room where cronies are contriving for financial benefits for themselves to a concerted attempt by the community to bring the community into a thoughtful cooperation.
Unfortunately, man has completely failed in any attempt at mutual, benificial, careing cooperation. However, the sleazy deals cut in a smoke filled back room by equally sleazy conniving greed ridden bigots seems to be thriving.
Kim Jong Ill is easy to see as loser. However, it's also easy to see the corrupt cronyism in S. Korean politics.
Best as I can tell, you are choosing the way of the idiots that have the most money over the idiots that cannot or will not cooperate with the likes of the western elite.
Ya, being Rockefeller sounds much better than being Kim Jong jerk. That does not mean that rocky ain't a heartless jerk.
The path, the attitude of both are not what we or this sorryful misguided world should hold up as honorable.
Personally, I think Rockefeller and his ilk have done more harm and murders to this world than knot head Kim Jong. Far more.
I have tried to start a conversation exploring outside this contrived box of options, but found not one taker. Whether it's lack of imagination or some other reason I don't know.
The conniving, fraudulent west and all their allied "gamers" are financially better off than Russia or Armenia. I can only guess that is why you express honor for the dishonorable.
They have more money. (Gd dmn, I think my dk just got hard).

[Hakob]

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Armenia is run purely to serve the interests of oligarchs and Russia.

Nagorno Karabakh is an actual country with a history. It is the story of an oppressed people fighting for independence, gaining their independence, and building a sovreign state with their own institutions. That's what a country is.

Armenia did not win any war of independence. Armenia did not build national institutions in the wake of independence designed for a sovreign state. It just "inherited" the same failed structures the soviets had. A lot of the people in charge and a lot of Armenians still keep bringing up the Soviet Union. It is a failed, gone concept that is still being used by many Armenians as some kind of xxxxing model. They still run this anti-liberal, anti-market, anti-global mindset that keeps Armenia a poor nation.

With that mindset, Armenia is choosing to be more like North Korea than South Korea. The best example I can give to my fellow Armenians is the Korean peninsula. We can either choose this backwards, nonsensical approach adopted by Russia, the Russia that can't build a car or a toothbrush, and remain insular. OR, we can adopt a more gobal mindset, build an export oriented economy, and progress alongside the world. Say what you will about the "evil, liberal, lgbt loving, "shekelist" west. People would much rather live there than Russia, Saudi Arabia, or hell even Poland and Hungary. But if it makes you conservative Armenians feel good to be conservative a$$holes, go for it. You're only harming yourself by not keeping up with the rest of the world.

Wow. What an out of touch remark.
Have you taken your medicines today, my progressive socialist friend?

[HyeSocialist]

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Wow. What an out of touch remark.
Have you taken your medicines today, my progressive socialist friend?

Prove me wrong.

[Haykakan]

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This whole liberal vs conservative crap is simply contrived to divide society against itself. It has been working brilliantly for the elites and you guys are exhibits A B and C

[Azad]

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The Azerbaijani Manat hit a record low of 1.90 yesterday, today it's down nearly 2 percent!

Excellent news! This is only after 15 days injecting $4 Billions from their piggy bank Wealth Fund.

"January 10, 2017

Azerbaijan Raids Wealth Fund as Central Bank Gets $4 Billion

Azerbaijan will transfer as much as 7.5 billion manat ($4 billion) of assets from its sovereign wealth fund to the central bank this year, giving it ammunition to defend the manat in the latest effort to break the grip of a currency crisis."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-10/azerbaijan-raids-wealth-fund-in-4-billion-boost-to-central-bank