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  • Originally posted by ASALA2116 View Post
    We need to just jump the gun. Armenia recognizing not Karabakh but joining Karabagh to the Republic of Armenia just how Russia did with Crimea. Set up a referendum and just do it. Enough already playing these childish games. All NK wear Armenia insignia. No such thing as NK flag but one flag and one anthem. We don't need to play games that we are helping the Karabagh people. It's absolutely bs. They're Armenians. That's all that matters. And if Azerbaijan want a war , promise them total destruction.
    "joining Karabagh to the Republic of Armenia just how Russia did with Crimea" - It's called annexation, Russia can do it, we can't because we are not a super power

    "All NK wear Armenia insignia. No such thing as NK flag but one flag and one anthem" - that's what the azeris say too and what the azeris want us to admit not because they want to see us united, but because it's better for them if we are the side killing the negotiations.

    "We don't need to play games that we are helping the Karabagh people." - it's the only way for little countries like Armenia to change borders in modern diplomacy

    "And if Azerbaijan want a war , promise them total destruction" - don't promise anything which you can't realise. It's very easy to be an online-general sitting in the diaspora and calling for war others have to fight

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      • U.S. Hails Armenian Participation In NATO Drills

        A senior U.S. diplomat praised the Armenian military on Friday for participating in the latest NATO-led military exercises held in neighboring Georgia, calling that a “great example of Armenia’s ability to balance its interests.”

        “Armenia should be very proud,” Richard Mills, the U.S. ambassador in Yerevan, told RFE/RL’s Armenian service (Azatutyun.am). “It was the only [Collective Security Treaty Organization] member in this exercise.”

        “And it contributed a very important component to this military exercise with the medical units that supported all the other nations that participated,” he said. “That helped the Armenian military, that helped this exercise and, I think, it helped security in Europe overall.”

        The two-week drills, which began in late July, involved about 2,800 soldiers from the United States, Georgia, Britain, Germany, Turkey, Ukraine, Slovenia and Armenia. U.S. Vice President Mike Pence visited the participating troops during an August 1 trip to Georgia.

        The participation of around 30 Armenian soldiers in the drills codenamed “Noble Partner” underscored Armenia’s policy of complementing a military alliance with Russia with closer security ties to the West.

        Armenia -- U.S Ambassador Richard Mills speaks to RFE/RL, 25Aug2017

        “Armenia does a good job of balancing its relationships with all its neighbors,” said Mills. “That includes Russia, that includes Iran, and that includes the United States and the European Union.”

        “The goal for our Armenian friends, for the Armenian government is to make sure that Armenia can make its own sovereign decisions about what path it should choose, what economic and political models it follows,” Mills went on. “And we want to help give Armenia the tools to continue making sovereign choices and to make sure that it’s not overly influenced or forced by others to follow certain paths that perhaps Armenia doesn’t want to follow.”

        Armenia has deepened defense cooperation with the U.S. and other NATO member states since the early 2000s. It currently contributes more than 100 troops to NATO-led missions in Kosovo and Afghanistan and regularly participates in multinational exercises organized by the U.S. military.

        Those troops are part of the Armenian army’s Peacekeeping Brigade that has received considerable U.S. assistance. A U.S.-funded renovation of the brigade’s main training center began as recently as in March.

        Mills stressed that U.S.-Armenian military has had a “much broader” scope. In his words, the United States has provided almost $50 million worth of military equipment and trained over 200 Armenian military personnel since 2002.

        Armenia - Armenian Defense Minister Vigen Sargsian (second from right), U.S. Ambassador Richard Mills (right) inaugurate the start of the revonation of the Zar Military Training Facility, 3Mar2017.

        The envoy also revealed that the U.S. offered to help Armenia last year to “learn lessons” from the April 2016 fighting in Nagorno-Karabakh. The four-day hostilities left at least 190 Armenian and Azerbaijani soldiers dead and nearly escalated into an all-out war. They were halted by a Russian-mediated agreement.

        “After the tragic fighting in April [2016] we approached our friends in the [Armenian] Ministry of Defense to talk to them about the lessons learned from that in terms of the military structure, mission command, communication … whether we could provide some assistance and how the U.S. military does its after-action reports.

        “The answer was that the ministry would be very interested in that. That was a program we had in place. But I think that it became a little bit of higher priority after the April events.”

        Mills added that the commander of U.S. Army Europe, Lieutenant General Ben Hodges, personally discussed the issue with Armenia’s top military officials when he visited Yerevan in May 2016.

        The diplomat further made clear that while Washington is committed to Armenia’s security it will continue to avoid selling offensive weapons to any of the parties to the Karabakh conflict. “I think that is one area where we differ from Russia,” he said.

        The U.S., Russia and France have long been jointly spearheading international efforts to end the Karabakh conflict.

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        • Originally posted by Sukhoi22 View Post
          [h=1] learn lessons” from the April 2016 fighting in Nagorno-Karabakh. .... They were halted by a Russian-mediated agreement.
          .... whether we could provide some assistance and how the U.S. military does its after-action reports.
          Action speak louder than words.
          More or less same scenario.

          " US ‘actively reviewing’ lethal defensive arms supply to Ukraine
          “On the defensive lethal weapons, we are actively reviewing it,” said Mattis.
          “Defensive weapons are not provocative unless you are an aggressor. And surely Ukraine is not an aggressor.”

          US Defense Secretary Jim Mattis on Thursday (24 August) stressed Washington's commitment to helping Ukraine's military, and said sanctions against Russia would remain in place until Moscow reversed its policy on Ukraine.


          If we rely on NATO we will follow the example of Western Armenia. Most will become turks the rest will be scattered around the world.
          The iskander missile was provided by Russia and not NATO. Stop kissing the as of disjointed entities serving large Western corporations interest around the world.



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              • Հիմա սպասում ենք, 20-30 կմ շատ լավ երևում է ինչ տեղաշարժ կա


                Մեր զրուցակիցն է Արցախի հերոս, գեներալ-մայոր Արկադի Տեր-Թադևոսյանը (Կոմանդոս)
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                Մեր զրուցակիցն է Արցախի հերոս, գեներալ-մայոր Արկադի Տեր-Թադևոսյանը (Կոմանդոս)

                Պարոն Տեր-Թադևոսյան, ինչպե՞ս եք գնահատում Ռուսաստանի կողմից Թուրքիային մոտ 2,5 մլրդ դոլարի u 400 համալիրներ տրամադրելու վերաբերյալ գործարքը:


                Սա բիզնես է, Ռուսաստանի բիզնես շահերն այդպես են պահանջում: Ռուսները արդեն c 500 ու c 400-ները կարող են վաճառել, բայց սրանք արդեն հին զենքի տեսակներ են: Ռուսաստանն ունի իր շահերը, Թուրքիային ծախում է, Ադրբեջանին ծախում է:


                Ռազմականփորձագետները նշում են, որ Նախիջևանում կուտակումներ կան, զորավարժություններ են անցկացվում: Ի՞նչէկատարվումՆախիջևանիհատվածում:


                Զորավարժություններ են անցկացվում ոչ միայն Նախիջևանում, այլև Վրաստանում, Թուրքիայում: Մենք կենտրոնն ենք, իրենք մեր շուրջը պտտվում են: Պուտինի հետ վերջին հանդիպման ժամանակ Սերժ Սարգսյանը, ենթադրում եմ, նաև այդ հարցերն է քննարկվել: Դուք գիտեք, որ ՀԱՊԿ-ն աստիճանաբար ոտքի է կանգնում, բացի այդ՝ հայ-ռուսական միացյալ ստորաբաժանումը կսկսի իր գործառույթների իրականացումը: Իսկ մնացածը կարծում եմ Ադրբեջանի կողմից հերթական շոուն է:


                Հայաստանի և Ադրբեջանի ԱԳ նախարարների հանդիպումից ի՞նչ կարելի է ակնկալել առաջիկայում:


                Ես այդ հարցերով չեմ զբաղվում, չեմ կարող ասել: Դա Էդվարդ Նալբանդյանը կարող է ասել: Իմ կարծիքով՝ ոչ մի լուրջ գործողություն չի լինի:


                ԱՄՆ արդեն նախկին համանախագահ Հոգլանդըներկայացրելէղարաբաղյանհակամարտությանկարգավորման 6 հիմնականկետերը: Մտահոգվելու առիթ կա՞:


                Չէ, մտահոգվելու առիթ չունենք: Նման առաջարկներ նախկինում էլ են եղել, որևէ նորություն չկա: Նախկինում ասում էին Զանգեզուրը տանք, էս անենք, էն անենք, բայց այդպիսի հարցերը որոշվում է տեղական մակարդակում, Ղարաբաղի հասարակությունը, այնտեղ պետք չէ խորհուրդ տալ:


                Կազանյան փաստաթուղթը չէ՞ հիմքում, ինչին Հայաստանը համաձայնվել է:


                Այն ժամանակ ուրիշ ղեկավարություն ունեինք, ասում էին՝ ոչ թե տարածքները, այլ Ղարաբաղն էլ պետք է Ադրբեջանի մաս կազմեր: Բայց կամաց-կամաց իրավիճակը փոխվում է: Մենք ունենք այն պետությունը, որն ունենք: Ոչ դիվանագիտական, ոչ մարդկային առումով չենք կարող խոսել Ադրբեջանի հետ, քանի որ Ադրբեջանն ասում է, որ Երևանն էլ է Ադրբեջանինը: Ինքն իր պատմությունն է կերտել և ուզում է իր գումարներով բոլորին ապացուցել, որ իբր մենք ագրեսոր ենք:


                Ղարաբաղից եք գալիս, իրավիճակն ինչպե՞ս է սահմանին:


                Շատ լավ, այնտեղ մարդիկ գիտեն իրենց աշխատանքները, իրենց առաջադրանքները և աշխատում են: Ճիշտն ասած, մենք չէինք սպասում ապրիլյան գործողություններին: Պետք է ճիշտն ասել՝ չէինք սպասում, և մեզ մեր երիտասարդ զինվորները, սպաները փրկեցին, բայց հիմա ամեն դեպքում սպասում ենք, լավ կարողանում ենք իրականացնել: Մինչև 20-30 կմ շատ լավ երևում է ինչ տեղաշարժ կա: Մենք արդեն իրենց քայլերը կարողանում ենք վերահկսել և կարող ենք շատ լավ դիմավորել նրանց:
                Last edited by Vrej1915; 08-26-2017, 09:55 AM. Reason: http://www.lragir.am/index/arm/0/interview/view/159315

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                • Originally posted by Azad View Post

                  Action speak louder than words.
                  More or less same scenario.

                  " US ‘actively reviewing’ lethal defensive arms supply to Ukraine
                  “On the defensive lethal weapons, we are actively reviewing it,” said Mattis.
                  “Defensive weapons are not provocative unless you are an aggressor. And surely Ukraine is not an aggressor.”

                  US Defense Secretary Jim Mattis on Thursday (24 August) stressed Washington's commitment to helping Ukraine's military, and said sanctions against Russia would remain in place until Moscow reversed its policy on Ukraine.


                  If we rely on NATO we will follow the example of Western Armenia. Most will become turks the rest will be scattered around the world.
                  The iskander missile was provided by Russia and not NATO. Stop kissing the as of disjointed entities serving large Western corporations interest around the world.


                  The goal should be to rely on no one but ourselves. We should aim to have cordial relations with all of them.

                  I have Ave no idea why our people are stubbornly pro Russia to the point where they will torpedo everything with every other country just to please their Russian masters.

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                  • Originally posted by HyeSocialist View Post

                    The goal should be to rely on no one but ourselves. We should aim to have cordial relations with all of them.

                    I have Ave no idea why our people are stubbornly pro Russia to the point where they will torpedo everything with every other country just to please their Russian masters.
                    because slaves are not looking for the reasons of their weakness and for a way out of slavery but only for saviours.

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                    • Originally posted by HyeSocialist View Post

                      The goal should be to rely on no one but ourselves. We should aim to have cordial relations with all of them.

                      I have Ave no idea why our people are stubbornly pro Russia to the point where they will torpedo everything with every other country just to please their Russian masters.
                      No one is in love with Russia!
                      Unfortunately, in the world we live in, small countries have to be under the sphere of a power. Specially countries that are located in hot zones.
                      Agree! We have to have cordial relations with all of them. I just don’t trust the British/American axis when it comes to their interest in relationship with Armenia.
                      We have nothing to offer them. We are the perfect cannon fodder to please the turkic and oil interest.
                      should be to rely on no one but ourselves” that would only happen if we have couple nukes.

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