Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Vrej1915]

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Ադրբեջանական լրատվամիջոցները հրապարակել են շփման գծում Ադրբեջանի կառուցած քարե պաշտպանական պատի լուսանկարները

Հոկտեմբեր 14, 2011
Vesti.Az-ը հրապարակել է ԼՂՀ զինված ուժերի հետ շփման գծում Ադրբեջանի կառուցած քարե պաշտպանական պատի լուսանկարները:

Ադրբեջանական լրատվամիջոցները գրում են, թե շփման գծի մոտ գտնվող ադրբեջանական գյուղերի բնակիչները հրադադարի ռեժիմի խախտումների հետեւանքով հայտնվում են կրակի տակ»:

ANS PRESS-ի տվյալներով, երեք մետր բարձրությամբ պատը կառուցվում է պետության հաշվին` «ադրբեջանական գյուղերի բնակիչներին հայկական գնդակներից պաշտպանելու համար»:

Շինարարական աշխատանքները սկսվել են 7 ամիս առաջ: 2700 մետր երկարությամբ պատը կանցնի Աղդամի շրջանի Քարվանդ գյուղից Թարթառի շրջանի գյուղերի տարածքով:

PS: This is a commercial proposition to our neighbors.
We cane provide at bargain prices hundreds of thousands of these cubiks, every month, for the coming years.
We have an awful large ruins in Akna, Varanata, and their ex-nomadic villages to clear, and those cubiks will clear our land, and will be fine for your wall.
You can even build it higher, 6 meters will be better.

[arakeretzig]

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burjiun, do you know if R-27 can be used by Su-25? wikipedia says armenia has the missle, but not sure how they would use it, wikipedia says Su-25 dont use it...

[Vardan]

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Yeh SU-25 can use R-27 missile

[HyeFighter2]

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Do you live in the US?

no sweden

[HyeFighter2]

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Yeh SU-25 can use R-27 missile

here is su25 full of rockets...

[Tigranakert]

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Existence of United Army Group within interests of Armenia - President

October 14, 2011 | 19:03
YEREVAN. – Armenian and Russian nations are united historically, spiritually, socially and economically, Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan said in the interview with “CSTO Allies” journal.

“Collaboration between Armenia and Russia has reached to a strategic partnership, and cooperation within CSTO strengthened relations developing dynamically. CSTO influenced positively on the military capability of Armenia and contributed to the realization of security in the region,” the President stated.

According to Sargsyan, the existence of the United Army Group based on Armenian and Russian Armed Forces in the territory of Armenia is within the interests of Armenia and serves for the base of ensuring regional security. Russian military base N102 is included in the group. Its status is determined by an interstate treaty.

Russian President Dmitri Medvedev signed a protocol during his last year visit to Armenia and prolonged the term of Russian military base in Armenia for another 49 years. The document states that Russian Armed Forces will provide modern and compatible weapons and military equipments, Sargsyan added.

[arakeretzig]

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holy crap! Su-25 is one mean beast! it's great that AAF is milking every juice off of it!

[Haykakan]

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I agree with Tigranakert! Nothing close to a "military balance" could happen between Armenia and Azeris let alone turkey in the west if not for Russia's presence and gifts of weaponry to Armenia. Drifting away from Russia =death to the armenian nation. There is nothing wrong with feeling empowered so long as you really do have that power. Armenia without Russia doesnt have xxxx and a feeling of empowerment when you have nothing is simply a dangerous dilussion. LTP had such dillusional feelings and we aalmost lost everything. Of the present countries who have any kind of power only Russia and Iran have a strong interest in Armenia existing to prevent panturkism. The west and the hryas wouldlike nothing better then for Armenia to disapear so they can build their oil, military and trade routes over it. This topic is very much relevant to this thread and Tigranakert does us a service by pointing it out because it seems that some here like to dwell in a fantasy world and Armenia simply cannot afford to do that.

[Joseph]

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This only confirms it to anyone who reads the article. Not only are the Azeris whinny xxxxxes but hypocrites as well. Good for Armenian. Cut a good deal and further screws up GUAM.


IN ENGLISH
Baku Protests Armenian ‘Arms Acquisition’ From Moldova

Russia - A BM-27 Uragan (Hurricane) multiple-launch rocket system at the St Petersburg Artillery Museum.
14.10.2011
Emil Danielyan
Azerbaijan has expressed serious concern over Armenia’s reported purchase from Moldova last month of rockets and other weapons worth millions of dollars, saying that it will complicate a peaceful resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

Elnur Aslanov, head of an analytical unit at President Ilham Aliyev’s administration, on Friday described this and other arms acquisitions by Yerevan as a “serious destabilizing factor” in the region.

“The policy on Nagorno-Karabakh pursued by Armenia testifies to the destructive position of that state in the region,” Russian and Azerbaijani news agencies quoted him as telling journalists in Baku. “Any arms acquisition, any increase in the number of weapons in the region certainly does not lay the groundwork for establishing peace and stability and, on the contrary, impedes that.”

Aslanov was commenting on reports that large quantities of weapons and ammunition that were shipped from Moldova to Armenia by an Armenian cargo plane on September 13-14.

According to Moldovan media, the secret deal was formalized this summer through a Latvian intermediary firm, Latspetsexport. The government of Moldova has essentially confirmed that information after it sparked a political scandal in the former Soviet republic later in September.


Poland -- Prime Minister of Moldova Vlad Filat at the Eastern Partnership Summit in Warsaw, 30Sep2011
The Moldovan news agency Omega last week claimed to have obtained copies of the Chisinau government’s contracts with Latspetsexport worth $3.3 million. It said they envisage the sale of several types of Soviet-made anti-tank and other rocket systems along with thousands pieces of ammunition used by them.

Those allegedly included a dozen BM-27 Uragan (Hurricane) multiple-launch rocket systems that have a firing range of up to 35 kilometers. “According to authorities in Moldova, some of these weapons have already been shipped to Armenia,” reported Omega.

Official Yerevan has declined to deny or confirm the reports. “In the interests of national security, details regarding the quantity and types of weapons and the party selling them are not subject to publication,” Davit Karapetian, the Armenian Defense Ministry spokesman, said on September 23.

The Azerbaijani government reacted negatively to the reported arms deliveries. Moldova’s ambassador to Azerbaijan, Igor Bodiu, was summoned to the Foreign Ministry in Baku to provide explanations. Bodiu afterwards described the deal as an “unfortunate mistake” that damaged his country’s relations with Azerbaijan.

Together with Ukraine and Georgia, Moldova and Azerbaijan are part of the GUAM grouping of four ex-Soviet states which has acted as a counterweight to Russia in the larger Commonwealth of Independent States.

Aliyev was reported to raise the matter with Moldova’s Prime Minister Vladimir Filat when the two met in Warsaw on the sidelines of a European Union summit on September 30. Omega quoted Filat as saying that he was invited to visit Baku “in order to continue the discussion.”


Armenia - A military parade in Yerevan, 21Sep2011.
Armenia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Shavarsh Kocharian dismissed the Azerbaijani protests as “aggressive whining” later on Friday. “And this is natural because Baku has to explain to its own people where the billions [of dollars,] which are constantly trumpeted about from various podiums and supposed to be spent on military procurements, have ended up and why its policy of military blackmail in [peace] negotiations has failed,” Kocharian said in a statement.

Azerbaijan has spent billions of dollars in oil revenues on buying weapons which it hopes will enable it to eventually win back Karabakh and other Armenian-controlled territories. It plans to boost military spending to $3.3 billion this year, up from $2.15 a year ago. By comparison, Armenia’s defense budget for 2011 is projected to reach only $400 million.

The Armenian side has sought to offset this spending gap mainly through close military ties with Russia that entitle it to receiving Russian weapons at discount prices or even free of charge. A new Russian-Armenian defense agreement signed in August 2010 commits Moscow to helping Yerevan obtain “modern and compatible weaponry and (special) military hardware.”

The Armenian military demonstrated some of its new weaponry, including S-300 air-defense systems, during a high-profile parade staged in Yerevan on September 21. It also for the first time put on display 9K72 surface-to-surface ballistic missiles that are known in the West as Scud-B.

[Haykakan]

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"Armenia’s Deputy Foreign Minister Shavarsh Kocharian dismissed the Azerbaijani protests as “aggressive whining” later on Friday. “And this is natural because Baku has to explain to its own people where the billions [of dollars,] which are constantly trumpeted about from various podiums and supposed to be spent on military procurements, have ended up and why its policy of military blackmail in [peace] negotiations has failed,” Kocharian said in a statement. "

agressive whining..lol i love it