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    Azerbaijan violated fundamental principles of international negotiations
    03.08.2009 13:43 GMT+04:00 Print version Send to mail

    /PanARMENIAN.Net/ In a call to the OSCE, the European Armenian Federation for Justice and Democracy expressed its profound concern about the danger to the Caucasus security, and in particular to Armenia and its population, resulting from Azerbaijan’s increased arms build-up and militarist policies.

    The call refers to Azerbaijan’s excessive new investment in military hardware and technology and the policy statements of the Azeri President with respect to peace negotiations concerning the Nagorno Karabakh conflict, under the aegis of the OSCE Minsk Group Co-Chairs. Given the present realities in Azerbaijan and the threatening posture of the Aliyev regime, the Federation concludes that Azerbaijan has violated the fundamental principles of international negotiations by seriously committing itself to the military option while giving lip service to the OSCE process. The Federation strongly urges the Co-Chairs to refocus their efforts, first and foremost, on the grave security threats resulting from Azerbaijan’s current national priorities. Azerbaijan cannot be allowed to negotiate from a position of open belligerence while the Armenian side negotiates in good faith.

    Indeed, Azerbaijan has multiplied by 1300% its budget for armaments, from 175 Million US dollars in 2004 to 2.5 Billion dollars in 2009. President Aliyev’s intensified warmongering declarations are thus substantiated pointing to a real possibility of an Azeri resumption of hostilities.

    The Federation denounces recent statements made by President Aliyev in London, which highlight his refusal of any concession on the Karabakh issue, and his persistence to speak about mere “autonomy” for Karabakh under Azeri sovereignty, a position which, in effect, puts an end to the OSCE negotiations process as it has existed so far.

    The European Armenian Federation calls on the Co-Chairs to take Azerbaijan’s military ambitions in the region seriously and, therefore, demand solid non-aggression guaranties from the Azeri state prior to any further discussions relating to the Minsk Group agenda. In the present circumstances, a non-aggression pact obligating Azerbaijan to peace is the only meaningful objective for OSCE before any further moves could be considered.

    “Armenia and the Nagorno Karabakh Republic have a right to secure themselves against the continuing threats from Azerbaijan. Furthermore, the future negotiating process must not exclude the Nagorno Karabakh Republic, as a full-fledged party to the negotiations. The Azerbaijani security threats are first directed at the people of Nagorno Karabakh, which must have its independent say in the process,” stated Hilda Tchoboian, President of the European Armenian Federation.

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Good report. Remember the Mardakert skirmishes in Levornarkh a little over a year ago? This article covers what happened in detail from the Armenian side.

      Another important detail is in the last two paragraphs, where for at least the third or fourth time, we acknowledge that we made land gains last year. This article talks about some 11 km of land gain in the north (Omar pass). Does anyone know exactly where the Omar mountain chain is?
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      Deceptive Calm: Artsakh Frontline Forces Always on the Alert


      Two “Vilis” vehicles of the Artsakh Defense Forces cut through a dusty field and stopped near the front line in the village of Levonarkh in the Martakert district. This was the same outpost that the Azeris overran and held for eight hours some sixteen months ago.

      The “Vilis” passengers were two lieutenant-colonels. Accompanied by battalion commander Artur Petrosyan, who supervises the military patrols in the area, they made their way through the trenches towards the contact line. As they were advancing, the cell phone of regimental commander Karen Aroustamyan rang.

      The commander didn’t say a word to the person on the other end of the line. After hanging up, he ordered a call-up of all the sharpshooters and a beefing up of the monitoring. He had learnt that the enemy was calling in some heavy weaponry to the line.

      Those in the front line patrol didn’t appear phased by this news; even the way they went about their daily routine. Lieutenant-Colonel Aroustamyan would ask them how they felt and talked about the patrol duties. There was nothing out of the ordinary except for the fact that a burst of enemy fire, now commonplace, had pierced the night silence.

      The commander had a taut bearing about him. He’s tall and square-shouldered. His apparently kind countenance hides a streak of roughness beneath. He speaks in a curt manner that is peppered with a tone of authority.


      March 3, 2008 – The enemy attacks

      The taciturn officer had nothing to say about the events of sixteen months ago at this outpost. He was in charge at the time. In the wee hours on that day, March 3, 2008, when a state of emergency was in place in Yerevan, a well-armed special Azeri detachment struck. After the Armenian troops responded the Azeri fled pell-mell; leaving their dead behind.

      Deputy Division Commander N. Mkrtchyan explains that, “According to our investigation, on March 3, the formation of their motorized artillery brigade. It seems that the brigade commander wanted to present a gift to his superiors and sent his “select” detachment to capture our position.”

      The position in question is on a flat piece of land but the Artsakh forces have artificially elevated it to a superior position in face of the enemy. Only seventy meters separates the trenches of the opposing forces. A cement water canal, left over from the Soviet period connects them. Last year the enemy special unit crawled along the canal unnoticed to the Armenian position.

      Battalion commander Artur Petrosyan recounts, “It was about 11:30 p.m. and I was traveling by car to the command post. There was a heavy fog and the wind was blowing furiously. The care was veering on the road. Then I got a call – Sir, the enemy has opened fire. I thought that maybe the enemy was taking advantage of the confused situation in Armenia and playing some tricks. I thought it might not be serious. Then a second call came – the enemy has infiltrated our trenches. To be honest I didn’t want to believe the news. I felt sort of ashamed. I consulted with brigade command and took off to the position with my deputies.”

      Seven-soldier Armenian squad defends the line


      At the command of A. Petrosyan, the seven Artsakh soldier squad at the position, under the command of the squad sergeant, pulled back to the second trench and took up defensive positions.

      The trench pass connecting the first and second line of trenches is still strewn with the remnants of sand bags. Upon capturing the first trench, the enemy used the bags to close off the pass and enter into a gun battle with our 19-20 year-old seven soldiers. The enemy used heavy weapons fire from their rear position. A bit later, a few officers led by Lieutenant-Colonel Petrosyan arrived on the scene. As a result, during the first few minutes two enemy soldiers had been killed.

      “Soon afterwards, the military unit commander arrived with support troops. After assessing the situation he gave orders that the enemy be destroyed right in the trenches,” recounts A. Petrosyan. “The commander and his deputy were lobbing some well targeted grenades. We mostly used grenades while the enemy was using heavier stuff, grenade launchers, etc. By 3:40 a.m. we received Lieutenant-Colonel Aroustamyan’s order to enter the trench and retake the position.”

      Our forces carried out the directive in fine fashion. In a matter of a few hours, the enemy began to fall back and suffered heavy causalities; more than 30 wounded and 11 dead, including a senior officer.

      Azeri’s flee; leaving their dead behind

      “If they were normal people they wouldn’t have left their dead behind. They even left the dead body of their commander, a captain, behind,” says Petrosyan.

      Two of our officers were wounded in the battle. One accidentally stepped on a mine and the other was hit in the hand by enemy fire. Artur Petrosyan notes that even though our conscripts didn’t allow the enemy to advance to the secondary line, it was difficult to maintain order with some of them.

      Due to their bravery under fire, NKR President Bako Sahakyan ordered commendations for nine Artsakh army conscripts.

      ‘This military operation once again showed that the mental and psychological state of our armed forces is at a high level and our heightened military preparedness allows us to deal with any unforeseen developments,” states Deputy Division Commander N. Mkrtchyan. To prove his point he refers to anther brilliant operation that certifies our continued superiority on the battlefield.

      In June of last year, Armenian troop detachments in the northern sector, along the Omar mountain chain, pushed some eleven kilometers forward towards the enemy who gave up several positions. As a result, our military footholds that were located at elevations of 2,000 meters were quickly transferred to superior sites at elevations of 3,400-3,600 meters.

      During a briefing with reporters, NKR Minister of Defense Lieutenant-General Movses Hakobyan stated, “The objective of this operation was to prove to the enemy that what they tried back on March 3-4, 2008, will never work. We, on the other hand, can accomplish the same if the need arises.”


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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Wow! Thanks for the article Fed. jan!
        So basically we got more land, the Omar Mountain
        chain?

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Federate View Post
          Good report. Remember the Mardakert skirmishes in Levornarkh a little over a year ago? This article covers what happened in detail from the Armenian side.

          Another important detail is in the last two paragraphs, where for at least the third or fourth time, we acknowledge that we made land gains last year. This article talks about some 11 km of land gain in the north (Omar pass). Does anyone know exactly where the Omar mountain chain is?
          ----------------------------------------------------------------------
          Deceptive Calm: Artsakh Frontline Forces Always on the Alert


          Two “Vilis” vehicles of the Artsakh Defense Forces cut through a dusty field and stopped near the front line in the village of Levonarkh in the Martakert district. This was the same outpost that the Azeris overran and held for eight hours some sixteen months ago.

          The “Vilis” passengers were two lieutenant-colonels. Accompanied by battalion commander Artur Petrosyan, who supervises the military patrols in the area, they made their way through the trenches towards the contact line. As they were advancing, the cell phone of regimental commander Karen Aroustamyan rang.

          The commander didn’t say a word to the person on the other end of the line. After hanging up, he ordered a call-up of all the sharpshooters and a beefing up of the monitoring. He had learnt that the enemy was calling in some heavy weaponry to the line.

          Those in the front line patrol didn’t appear phased by this news; even the way they went about their daily routine. Lieutenant-Colonel Aroustamyan would ask them how they felt and talked about the patrol duties. There was nothing out of the ordinary except for the fact that a burst of enemy fire, now commonplace, had pierced the night silence.

          The commander had a taut bearing about him. He’s tall and square-shouldered. His apparently kind countenance hides a streak of roughness beneath. He speaks in a curt manner that is peppered with a tone of authority.


          March 3, 2008 – The enemy attacks

          The taciturn officer had nothing to say about the events of sixteen months ago at this outpost. He was in charge at the time. In the wee hours on that day, March 3, 2008, when a state of emergency was in place in Yerevan, a well-armed special Azeri detachment struck. After the Armenian troops responded the Azeri fled pell-mell; leaving their dead behind.

          Deputy Division Commander N. Mkrtchyan explains that, “According to our investigation, on March 3, the formation of their motorized artillery brigade. It seems that the brigade commander wanted to present a gift to his superiors and sent his “select” detachment to capture our position.”

          The position in question is on a flat piece of land but the Artsakh forces have artificially elevated it to a superior position in face of the enemy. Only seventy meters separates the trenches of the opposing forces. A cement water canal, left over from the Soviet period connects them. Last year the enemy special unit crawled along the canal unnoticed to the Armenian position.

          Battalion commander Artur Petrosyan recounts, “It was about 11:30 p.m. and I was traveling by car to the command post. There was a heavy fog and the wind was blowing furiously. The care was veering on the road. Then I got a call – Sir, the enemy has opened fire. I thought that maybe the enemy was taking advantage of the confused situation in Armenia and playing some tricks. I thought it might not be serious. Then a second call came – the enemy has infiltrated our trenches. To be honest I didn’t want to believe the news. I felt sort of ashamed. I consulted with brigade command and took off to the position with my deputies.”

          Seven-soldier Armenian squad defends the line


          At the command of A. Petrosyan, the seven Artsakh soldier squad at the position, under the command of the squad sergeant, pulled back to the second trench and took up defensive positions.

          The trench pass connecting the first and second line of trenches is still strewn with the remnants of sand bags. Upon capturing the first trench, the enemy used the bags to close off the pass and enter into a gun battle with our 19-20 year-old seven soldiers. The enemy used heavy weapons fire from their rear position. A bit later, a few officers led by Lieutenant-Colonel Petrosyan arrived on the scene. As a result, during the first few minutes two enemy soldiers had been killed.

          “Soon afterwards, the military unit commander arrived with support troops. After assessing the situation he gave orders that the enemy be destroyed right in the trenches,” recounts A. Petrosyan. “The commander and his deputy were lobbing some well targeted grenades. We mostly used grenades while the enemy was using heavier stuff, grenade launchers, etc. By 3:40 a.m. we received Lieutenant-Colonel Aroustamyan’s order to enter the trench and retake the position.”

          Our forces carried out the directive in fine fashion. In a matter of a few hours, the enemy began to fall back and suffered heavy causalities; more than 30 wounded and 11 dead, including a senior officer.

          Azeri’s flee; leaving their dead behind

          “If they were normal people they wouldn’t have left their dead behind. They even left the dead body of their commander, a captain, behind,” says Petrosyan.

          Two of our officers were wounded in the battle. One accidentally stepped on a mine and the other was hit in the hand by enemy fire. Artur Petrosyan notes that even though our conscripts didn’t allow the enemy to advance to the secondary line, it was difficult to maintain order with some of them.

          Due to their bravery under fire, NKR President Bako Sahakyan ordered commendations for nine Artsakh army conscripts.

          ‘This military operation once again showed that the mental and psychological state of our armed forces is at a high level and our heightened military preparedness allows us to deal with any unforeseen developments,” states Deputy Division Commander N. Mkrtchyan. To prove his point he refers to anther brilliant operation that certifies our continued superiority on the battlefield.

          In June of last year, Armenian troop detachments in the northern sector, along the Omar mountain chain, pushed some eleven kilometers forward towards the enemy who gave up several positions. As a result, our military footholds that were located at elevations of 2,000 meters were quickly transferred to superior sites at elevations of 3,400-3,600 meters.

          During a briefing with reporters, NKR Minister of Defense Lieutenant-General Movses Hakobyan stated, “The objective of this operation was to prove to the enemy that what they tried back on March 3-4, 2008, will never work. We, on the other hand, can accomplish the same if the need arises.”


          http://hetq.am/en/karabakh/sahman-3/
          The Azeris are truly paper tigers. This is a great article.
          General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            I'd love to see Armenia with strong and dominant relations with Latin America, kinda like what Iran is doing. Brazil is a future power in the world. Also wouldn't mind seeing a Hugo Chavez visit to Armenia
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            Armenia is interested in development of military collaboration with Latin America

            04.08.2009 17:04 GMT+04:00

            /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Today, RA Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan met newly appointed Brazilian Ambassador to Armenia, Marcela Maria Nikodemos.

            Congratulating the diplomat with his new appointment, RA Defense Minister expressed a hope for further strengthening of Armenian –Brazilian collaboration.

            Considering Armenia’s interest in developing military collaboration with Latin America, specifically Brazil, RA Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan offered organization of mutual visits by experts’ groups.

            The parties emphasized that accreditation of Brazilian Military Attaché will make significant contributions to the development of bilateral relations in defense sphere.

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Is the APC-70 the same as the BTR-70?
              ---------------------------------------------------------------
              Azerbaijan purchased 32 APC-70 from Ukraine

              04.08.2009 10:49 GMT+04:00

              /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Ukraine sold 34 tanks (33 to Kenya and 1 to Georgia) in 2008, Kyiv said in a report issued for the United Nations Register of Conventional Arms.

              Georgia purchased 15 infantry fighting vehicles and 25 armored personnel carriers. U.S. bought 1 IFV-3. Azerbaijan bought 32 APC-70.

              Ukraine made some $800 million by exporting arms last year, replenishing the national budget with 1.185 billion hryvnas, telegraf.by reported.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Zaruhi Postanjyan: liberated territories around Karabakh guarantee our security

                04.08.2009 16:17 GMT+04:00

                /PanARMENIAN.Net/ The liberated territories around NKR guarantee the security our homeland and their surrender is inadmissible, said Zaruhi Postanjyan, member of Heritage parliamentary group.

                “Madrid Principles are unacceptable if they contain a provision envisaging surrender of liberated territories. Armenia should recognize independence of NKR and act as the guarantor of its security only,” she told reporters today.

                For his part, Heritage party spokesman Hovsep Khurshudyan said that although Arstakh leaders trust RA President Serzh Sargsyan, it doesn’t empower Armenia to determine the fate of the liberated lands.

                He also said that is response to an official inquiry to the NKR parliament about recognition of the Nagorno Karabakh Republic’s independence by Armenia, the party was told that “as a sovereign country, Armenia itself decides on its foreign policy priorities.”

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Lachin, Kelbajar and NKR should by all means be under Armenia’s control

                  05.08.2009 18:56 GMT+04:00

                  /PanARMENIAN.Net/

                  “First RA and NKR leaders agreed some part of liberated territories could be subject to mutual concessions in the course of NKR conflict settlement. Yet, the territories, which if ceded, couldn’t harm NKR safety, were discussed,” RA ex-Premier Hrant Bagratyan said at a joint news conference with United Labor Party Leader Gurgen Arsenyan in Yerevan.

                  In his turn, Gurgen Arsenyan noted that mutual concessions in ceding of territories could be agreed on only in case they don’t contradict RA and NKR national interests. Lachin, Kelbajar and NKR should by all means be under Armenia’s control, he added.

                  Hrant Bagratyan agreed that the above mentioned regions must not be ceded, noting that Armenians can’t be deprived of their land unless they agree to it. He also emphasized that non- population of liberated territories was a mistake, as in that case the world community would have to face the fact.

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by Federate View Post
                    Good report. Remember the Mardakert skirmishes in Levornarkh a little over a year ago? This article covers what happened in detail from the Armenian side.

                    Another important detail is in the last two paragraphs, where for at least the third or fourth time, we acknowledge that we made land gains last year. This article talks about some 11 km of land gain in the north (Omar pass). Does anyone know exactly where the Omar mountain chain is?
                    Omar mountain chain is in Qelbajar. It is east of Armenia and west of Karabakh. Who controls Omar controls Lachin. That why in winter of 93 azeris gave everything they got to get it back. It was first real battle of newly created Armenian Army. Many Armenian boys - young recruits died in those days... many lost, frozen, legs and arms…it was very cold winter…
                    But azeris failed and we still control Qelbajar and Omar means-Lachin.

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
                      Omar mountain chain is in Qelbajar. It is east of Armenia and west of Karabakh. Who controls Omar controls Lachin. That why in winter of 93 azeris gave everything they got to get it back. It was first real battle of newly created Armenian Army. Many Armenian boys - young recruits died in those days... many lost, frozen, legs and arms…it was very cold winter…
                      But azeris failed and we still control Qelbajar and Omar means-Lachin.
                      The Azeris lost over 4,000 men near the Omar Mt. Pass alone. They were forced into a valley, surrounded by Armenian soldiers and then decimated.
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