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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
    taking a wild guess, either sell them for scrap, or upgrade them.
    Military planes tend to stay in service for a very long time and not unlike a car you would ideally not want to sell a serviceable aircraft for scrap and their non-military private buyers who are interested in acquiring old fast jets.

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by argin View Post
      This one is redicilus woooow
      The civilians participated in the parade instead of military servicemen and military equipments shown during the event were brought from Armenia

      Baku – APA. Armenian newspapers and other sources bring the reports on Armenian military parade held in Khankendi on May 9 to light disclosing the parade show. According to those sources, the separatist regime faced with personnel problems while organizing the so-called parade and involved the demobilized civilians paying first $450 and then $380 to them. But some people were not paid and when they protested it the regime promised to solve the problem soon.
      can you give us link to this "article" ?

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        The military parade in Stephanakert, Artcakh (Armenia) May 9, 2012







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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Serviceman kills his fellow soldier then commits suicide in Azerbaijan

          [ 15 May 2012 11:45 ]
          Baku. Hafiz Heydarov – APA. A soldier killed his fellow soldier then committed suicide in Azerbaijan.

          APA reports that the incident was recorded in Shamkir Military Formation’s N military unit situated in Gazakh region.

          Soldier of the national Army Vusal Nabiyev killed his fellow soldier Majnun Garazadeh from his combat weapon. Then Nabiyev committed suicide.

          Garazadeh was drafted from Imishli Region Military Commissariat, Nabiyev – from Hajigabul Region Military Commissariat.
          apa.az

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            The military parade in Stephanakert, Artcakh (Armenia) May 2012








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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by argin View Post
              This one is redicilus woooow
              The civilians participated in the parade instead of military servicemen and military equipments shown during the event were brought from Armenia

              Baku – APA. Armenian newspapers and other sources bring the reports on Armenian military parade held in Khankendi on May 9 to light disclosing the parade show. According to those sources, the separatist regime faced with personnel problems while organizing the so-called parade and involved the demobilized civilians paying first $450 and then $380 to them. But some people were not paid and when they protested it the regime promised to solve the problem soon.

              The photos showed that young civilians participated in the parade instead of the servicemen. The shirts worn under the uniforms and shoes unmasked them.

              According to the last statistics given by the Armenians, more than one million people left Armenia in the past 4-5 years creating human resources problem for the army. Armenian leadership can not complete ordinary military unit and another serious problem for them is related to Nagorno Karabakh. There are no more civilians in Nagorno Karabakh and just military servicemen could be seen everywhere. The separatist regime claimed that military equipments and armaments demonstrated in the parade belonged to them. But outside authors and other Armenian sources said this report was wrong. UAZ, S-125 missile, KRUG missiles, Mercedes ML, Nissan Patrol, KamAZ, D-30, antiaircraft missile system, Mi 8 helicopters were brought from Armenia and then used in the parade.

              The military equipments, vehicles and arms demonstrated in Yerevan parade on September 21, 2011 then were brought to Nagorno Karabakh and used in Khankendi parade on May 9, 2012. They made same cosmetic changes on vehicles and then demonstrated it.

              13 helicopters were brought from Armenia, but 10 of them were demonstrated in the parade. Three others were out of order probably.

              The white car carried the “general” in Khankendi parade was used by Armenian defense minister Seyran Ohanyan on September 21, 2011 when he reviewed troops in Yerevan.

              Former militant Jirayr Safliyan, who takes opposite position against Sargsyan and leaders of separatist regime now, refused to participate in this parade because of above-mentioned issues. He said all Armenian army is protecting the current regime, but not the country and people. According to him, the Armenian defense ministry has no exact program and in case of attack, Armenian army can rely only on Russia and it is an intellectual servitude. Safliyan said it was delusion to speak about the combat readiness of the army.

              The Armenia’s measures to find a way out give boomerang effect and work against itself
              They are just doing that for internal purposes only. They are trying to show there citizens that Artsakh doesnt have any of these tanks or artillery, they belong to Armenia. They did the same thing during the military parade in Yerevan when aliyev claimed Armenia didnt have enough gas to power up the tanks and that is why the tanks were carried on trucks. Its just plain ignorance and trying to calm the citizens down.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                The military parade in Stephanakert, Artcakh (Armenia) May 2012










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                  The military parade in Stephanakert, Artcakh (Armenia) May 2012










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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Russia will support Armenia officially as both states are within the CIS…


                    Essentially, the article reaffirms that Russia will continue "mediation" for an endless amount of time. It has occured to me that the only powers at this point that could possibly encite are Armenia, Azerbaijan and Iran. Armenia will not (for obvious reasons) and Azerbaijan is too scared of Russian reprisal to take action. That leaves Iran.

                    Iran definetely has interests in the South Caucasus. My question is: what kind of stimuli must Iran recieve from Azerbaijan or Armenia to shift its policy and, millitarily speaking, what will be the effect of Iranian involvement. Also, not sure if this is related, but Iran acts as a lifeline for Nackchivan by supply electrical power.

                    I don't see much that Armenia can do, but Azerbaijan is pushing some buttons. Apart from the secular policy and ethnic Azeri problem (Iran is suspicious that Azerbaijan may incite ethnic tenision in the millions of Azeris residing in Iran, i.e. the plan to rename Azerbaijan to "Northern Azerbaijan"), Baku may also hold a gay pride parade during Eurovision that is really pissing of the ayatollahs.

                    So what else does Azerbaijan (or Armenia) have to do, and what will bethe consequences of Iranian involvement, militarilly or otherwise?

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Guys the new UAV's are also called Krunk? or its something else?

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