What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

[Federate]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

It is fixed in the constitution of Artsakh (Part I, Article I).

Thanks Catharsis. Slowly we need to abolish the Nagorno-Karabakh term altogether and only keep it for historical use.

Գլուխ I, Հոդված I, Մաս II՝ Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի Հանրապետություն և Արցախի Հանրապետություն անվանումները նույնական են:

Chapter I, Article I, Section II: The Nagorno Karabakh Republic and Artsakh Republic designations are the same.

[Icy]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

Thanks Catharsis. Slowly we need to abolish the Nagorno-Karabakh term altogether and only keep it for historical use.

Գլուխ I, Հոդված I, Մաս II՝ Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի Հանրապետություն և Արցախի Հանրապետություն անվանումները նույնական են:

Chapter I, Article I, Section II: The Nagorno Karabakh Republic and Artsakh Republic designations are the same.

That's true Fed, we need to use the true term "Artsakh".

[Catharsis]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

Thanks Catharsis. Slowly we need to abolish the Nagorno-Karabakh term altogether and only keep it for historical use.

Գլուխ I, Հոդված I, Մաս II՝ Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի Հանրապետություն և Արցախի Հանրապետություն անվանումները նույնական են:

Chapter I, Article I, Section II: The Nagorno Karabakh Republic and Artsakh Republic designations are the same.

Yes indeed Federate we should free ourselves of all signs of foreign subjugation, we liberated the land, but some of us still need to liberate our minds, liberate the place names that for centuries have also been taken captive. By restoring their rightful names we are actually connoting the true origin of the land.

I am sure through all of our efforts we will see the day when Artsakh is restored as the rightful province of Free, Independent and United Armenia. The morale and overall spirit of the people of Artsakh is actually very high and we should all be proud of that.

[Catharsis]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

That's true Fed, we need to use the true term "Artsakh".

Yes it is very symbolic since every time we use Karabakh (with all its transliteration variants) we are actually giving credence to the false notion that the land is Turkic.

The ancient name for Stepanakert - Վարարակն - Vararakn should also be put into circulation for perhaps one of the districts of Stepanakert if not restoring the old name altogether.

[Catharsis]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

I agree, Artsakh is a far better name then the russian word which is more of a description then a name.

Yes, Artsakh (13th province of Greater Armenia) is mentioned in Vanic - Araratian inscriptions as Ardakh. Strabo mentions it in the First Century BC as an Armenian province (Orxistine) that was renowned for its strong cavalry. Khorenatsi - the Fifth Century Father of Armenian History notes that it was ruled by the House of Sisak (closely associated with the neighboring Syunik-Sisakan province), from the bloodline of patriarch Hayk.

Artsakh along with Utik and Paytakaran provinces of Greater Armenia was also called - Առան - Aran.

[Army]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

What does 'Nagarno' mean ?

[Catharsis]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

What does 'Nagarno' mean ?

It is a Russian derived word - Нагорный - Nagorniy (or Nagornii) meaning mountainous since when the 'Nagorno-Karabakh Autonomous Oblast' was created in 1923 there was a Mountainous or Highland Karabakh and also Lowland (or Valley) Karabakh. The 'Lowland Karabakh' included territories that were to the north of NKAO and the word was well in circulation until the 1960s. The Armenians of 'Lowland Karabakh' (towns and villages in the regions all around the city of Gandzak - including Martunashen, Tchragidzor, Shamkor, K'arhat, Shahumyan etc.) were deported between 1988-1991. With some of the fiercest battles taking place for Armenian villages and towns like Getashen, Martunashen and Shahumian in the Shahumian region of Artsakh that to this day is still occupied by Azeri forces along with parts of northeastern Martakert and eastern Martuni regions of the Republic of Artsakh.

[MrT]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

As accurate as that map is at depicting the ethnographic composition of present day Armenia and the NKR it is somewhat misleading in pretty much all other regions. The below map should be more accurate. Although anyone foolish enough to think that clear and neat lines define ethnic groups should not even bother looking at any of these. These maps only provide a rough picture.

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[Catharsis]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

As accurate as that map is at depicting the ethnographic composition of present day Armenia and the NKR it is somewhat misleading in pretty much all other regions. The below map should be more accurate. Although anyone foolish enough to think that clear and neat lines define ethnic groups should not even bother looking at any of these. These maps only provide a rough picture.

Yes, however there have been wide demographic shifts (I believe the above map is based on 1989 demographics - the last population census held in the USSR at the end of every decade) in other conflicting parts of Caucasus such as Abkhazia and South Ossetia.

[Federate]

Re: What are the borders of Nagorno-Karabakh?

Actually, this is the most accurate of the present situation. Map seems to pre-date last year's Georgian-Ossetian conflict since Georgians were thrown out of South Ossetia.