"Armenia's Allies"

[KarotheGreat]

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Then you clearly have not met all Russians. I assure you, Armenians are not as well liked as you pass it off. Nor are Armenians angels in Russia, and I can tell you stories from personal families and relatives who know what goes on.

Not every Russian can like us, do we like every Russian? No we don't. We don't even like every Armenian on this planet? It's impossible that every single Russian likes us. But most of them have a friendly attitude towards us especially if they are also outside Russia. Than it's like old friends meeting each other.

And where did I say Armenians were angels that didn't do anything wrong. I know what's going on in Russia I've got family living there.

@John: Wasn't it a couple of years ago we were collecting money for Romanian children living on the streets in school.

[Haykakan]

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Man that john canadian guy is way off base. Romania was one of the leading countries commiting credit card fraud. Am i the only one who remembers the Italians who were stabbed to death in italy by romanian thuggs? I got nothin against romania it actually fought the turks to and the count dracula legend Vlad the impailor) is from this conflict. John rant is just stupid especialy the way he worships the eu and westernization it is really funny. I admire romanias soccer team though.

[Eddo211]

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Armenia has Allies???

Maybe we are talking about the Allied powers during WWI.....same ones that we saved their skin by stopping the turks advances on several fronts all by ourselves without any of their help. Sorry...they did send help, too bad it was a day late and a dollar short.

Here is an interesting article guys. Published in NY Times dated Jan 20, 1921

Add this one if it is not already there to the list of AG evidence and our dear Allies kissing Turkish boots.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9504E5D9153CE533A25753C2A9679C946095D6CF

Full article (which is very short and dirrect) in PDF file.

[Federate]

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Federate, what has that got to do with anything?

Pretty simple. The topic is "Armenia's allies". We were deviating to "What the world thinks of Romanians". So to tie the knot, here is a fun fact on why Romania cannot be an ally of Armenia due to its strong links to the grandaddy baboon.

Could also explain to the Romanian agent what we think of them, given his rant.

[TomServo]

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Federate, what has that got to do with anything?

[Federate]

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Let's not forget that Bucharest has a 'Heydar Aliyev park'. Like, WTF? http://www.azembassy.ro/eng/news/press_releases/020.htm

[jgk3]

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John, your lack of respect and consideration for our attitudes towards our "third world country" is not going to do you well here. Yes we know there are problems with Armenia and have our own members dedicated to addressing them, however, we don't make overgeneralizations, putting a bad rap on post soviet states being inherently xxxxholes and how Romania is this magical model to follow. Personally I don't know much about the statistics of Romania but have been told by a Romanian immigrant to Canada that his reason for leaving was that the locals were very violent and stupid for no reason. This is a Romanian individual's attitude that I present to you as contradicting the kind you present to us.

Also, its countryside generally lacks economic infrastructure, perhaps they've modernized a few population centers but what leads you to believe that on the whole, their society is that much more advanced than other Balkan states, or even post-soviet states? Simple EU membership, earning them positive rankings by going along with a Eurocentric doctrine of centralization of power? How are they any different, qualitatively, from Armenia aligning itself with Moscow as opposed to Brussels? How can you promise that their choice, in the longrun, is inherently more "civilized" or "advanced" just because it's not Russia oriented? In my opinion, any lack of diplomacy towards Russia on the part of Eastern Europeans is actually hubris, not based on ensuring the maximum social security for its populations but rather, seeing the issue as black and white, West oriented or Russia oriented. I have a strong sense that you too, have this black and white pair of sunglasses and I suggest you diversify the source of bias in your readings of geopolitics. This can be a hard thing to do if we mixed pride with our analysis, we Armenians have to cope with this tendancy all the time if we want to expand the scope to a competent calibur for viewing such matters with.

[bell-the-cat]

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Actually not so I have lived in the EU so I know that not all Europeans think like that its the minority. Your pretty damn rude.

Guess what?? Armenia is an extremely poor Third World USSR Country. Dont be jealous cause your country is Third World. In the EU and Canada there are a lot of things that we say about Armenians and mostly its not very good either.

So instead of being so damn rude an EU Member State you should look very hard towards your Third World very lagging very poor country Soviet Country before talking about an EU State like that. I have been to Armenia with my fellow Romanian mates and Armenians are actually very curious about Romania being in the EU, they ask lots of questions, are very respectful towards me and my Romanian mates.

Romania has joined the EU (West) and NATO (West), where is Armenia??? An extremely poor country that is landlocked and performing very badly. Romania is an EU Regional Power of the Western Balkans and EE and is one of the best performers in the EU in a lot of things. Yeah sure Romania has some issues like the rest of the EU12 but at least they have the will and the dertimination to overcome them.

Romania and Canada have excellent relations due to its EU Membership, Regional Power Status, Francophone among other things. Romania has excellent relations with a hell of a lot of other Countries around the world for quite a lot of reasons.

I have lived in Romania also so I know where its at, I talk to lots of Romanians who agree with me.

So you stupid person instead of insulting and saying things about an EU State like you are doing. Why dont you go back to Armenia and help it get it out of desperate state instead of running away from your own Soviet issues that you carry with you since the USSR times.

I was reading that Armenia will be an extremely poor country for many many years and will not catch up for a long time, so maybe you should think about where Armenia is at cause at the moment Armenia is considered to be a failing country.

Most Armenians are very nice people but obviously not you. Why dont you go back to your Third World Country Armenia? Armenia's getting worse, and I know cause I talk to lots of Armenians in Canada and tell me that's their lives were hell and still are they were pleased to leave Armenia and would never return.

I think we can deduce 2 facts from the above - JohnCanadian is of Romanian descent and he is employed in some capacity to lobby on behalf of the Romanian State.

JohnCanadian - it isn't me who created Europe's negative opinions of Romanians, it is the actions of a large number of Romanians that did it. I'm sure most Romanians are completely law abiding and decent, just like most Nigerians don't engage in mail fraud and forgery, but if you want to improve Romania's image in the world you had better start to address the problems a minority of its citizens cause rather than just attacking those who mention those problems. And you have shot yourself in the foot with your extended rant against Armenia and Armenians, coz, firstly, I'm not Armenian, and secondly, even if I was, what has Armenia and its inhabitants got to do with the bad-image of Romanians?

[hitite]

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... when the filthy Turks invaded Europe... We are people who stand by our values and never surrender, and we are proud of it...

Didnt the "filthy" Turk invade Romania after kicking some serious Armenian ass? If you dont succumb to the much flirted idea that the Armenian welcomed the incoming Turk as a better alternative to their Greek lords (which I dont adhere to) you have to accept that you must have surrendered at some point right???

So if you're gonna be proud of something find something else to be freakin' proud of....

[hrai]

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Actually not so I have lived in the EU so I know that not all Europeans think like that its the minority. Your pretty damn rude.

Guess what?? Armenia is an extremely poor Third World USSR Country. Dont be jealous cause your country is Third World. In the EU and Canada there are a lot of things that we say about Armenians and mostly its not very good either.

So instead of being so damn rude an EU Member State you should look very hard towards your Third World very lagging very poor country Soviet Country before talking about an EU State like that. I have been to Armenia with my fellow Romanian mates and Armenians are actually very curious about Romania being in the EU, they ask lots of questions, are very respectful towards me and my Romanian mates.

Romania has joined the EU (West) and NATO (West), where is Armenia??? An extremely poor country that is landlocked and performing very badly. Romania is an EU Regional Power of the Western Balkans and EE and is one of the best performers in the EU in a lot of things. Yeah sure Romania has some issues like the rest of the EU12 but at least they have the will and the dertimination to overcome them.

Romania and Canada have excellent relations due to its EU Membership, Regional Power Status, Francophone among other things. Romania has excellent relations with a hell of a lot of other Countries around the world for quite a lot of reasons.

I have lived in Romania also so I know where its at, I talk to lots of Romanians who agree with me.

So you stupid person instead of insulting and saying things about an EU State like you are doing. Why dont you go back to Armenia and help it get it out of desperate state instead of running away from your own Soviet issues that you carry with you since the USSR times.

I was reading that Armenia will be an extremely poor country for many many years and will not catch up for a long time, so maybe you should think about where Armenia is at cause at the moment Armenia is considered to be a failing country.

Most Armenians are very nice people but obviously not you. Why dont you go back to your Third World Country Armenia? Armenia's getting worse, and I know cause I talk to lots of Armenians in Canada and tell me that's their lives were hell and still are they were pleased to leave Armenia and would never return.

Get it off your chest why don't you?
I've never been to an EU state, I've been to Germany, Greece, Italy and Spain and last time they were still Germany, Greece, Italy and Spain.
Bell was spot on with his desription of why Romania is judged how it is and where it stands in most peoples minds.....just above Albania.
What areas does Romania perform so well in? I'd be interested to know......
Lastly, who is the EU12 ?