Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

[VartanK]

Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

ANCA stop interfering with the agenda of the Armenian Government!! ANCA you are not armenia and are not associated with Armenian government! Just bunch of axpars trying to do something armenian in cozy America, with most of them not even going to Armenia. Let Armenia the official country of Armenians make the decisions about Armenia.

Mos, I agree with you but I don't like the word "axpars".
I think that the Armenian government should invite the diaspora to be part of it, but the diaspora shoud support and respect the choice of those who live in Armenia. So unless the diaspora is invited by the Armenian government it should step aside and do its best to help Armenia negotiate the est deal
By the way, we don't know if it does not do it secretly or indirectly.

I have voted PROBABLY NOT but I think that the poll is missing: Should Armenian invite the diaspora to be part of the negotatiations?

[Virgil]

Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

If I am a diaspora armenian, I would only give my support to ROA, not guidance.

Exactly, the only true Armenian is the one residing in Armenia, anyone else that has "Armenia's interests in mind" should exercise her or his opinions in the Republic of Armenia. Essentially, when you physically leave a country, you forfeit your rights and move on.

Yes they are not children; but since we're here thanks to the jeudeo-turkish Genocide, we will give support and any guidance that they need. That's our patriotically derived business.

Very true!

[Virgil]

Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

Let Armenia the official country of Armenians make the decisions about Armenia.

I don't like to get involved, but Mos jan, you are a very wise man. I can not begin to tell how proud I am that there truly exists Armenians like you that understand. A government that is a slave to slaves is not independent nor does it have a future as a state. This is exactly what the Diaspora wants; they are a cancer for the Armenian people.

[Anoush]

Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

If I am a diaspora armenian, I would only give my support to ROA, not guidance.

However as Armenians and Armenia's supporters we deem to stand and think for ourselves. Whatever we can do and for the good of our Republic; that's our prerogative.

[Palavra]

Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

If I am a diaspora armenian, I would only give my support to ROA, not guidance.

[Anoush]

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Yes they are not children; but since we're here thanks to the jeudeo-turkish Genocide, we will give support and any guidance that they need. That's our patriotically derived business.

Very true

Virgil, the above paragraph that you said "Very true" to; it was I who wrote it NOT Palavra. You put his name as a quote and it was not his words, but mine.

[Palavra]

Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

Yes it's true Diasporan Armenians are not effected economically; however as I said our hearts and souls are always with Armenia, we're always watching and supporting Armenia as much as we can from outside.

Heart and soul is not realist. It generally want more and ready for more conflict. It is a good thing If you have enough power(Like, It helped you at karabag war.) but when It comes to politics, You need realism.

We don't want ROA to give anything to us; our republic is new and it is us who want to give to our beloved republic; it is called (unconditional love to our Armenia).

It is not unconditional. If Supporters dont like politics of ROA, They will decrease their support. So That is why I said, ROA should cooperate diaspora.

Now why would ROA limit our effectiveness towards our republic?

Because It would be better that If a decision maker effected from that decision. Otherwise, decisions cannot be decided by mind but "soul and heart."

By the way, I am talking about diaspora effect over armenian politics.

We are watching closely, living with the ups and downs of our republic; therefore whatever we offer from our hearts and souls should be welcomed by Armenia as we only mean well.

But I think, people who live at ROA will know what is best for them. They should take their decision without the large effect of diaspora. They are not children. They can rule their own country.

[Anoush]

Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

I am not saying diaspora is not loving ROA but as you said, Diaspora wont be harmed from physically or monetarily. So They can easily ignore trade agreement or even threat of war.

I should also add that I am talking as a turk.

ROA need to give something back to diaspora for their loyalty and support. Only thing ROA can offer is cooperation with diaspora about AG issue and governing of ROA. ROA cannot easly ignore diaspora.

I hope ROA can limit effect of diaspora.(for Turkey.)



Turkish people have no hidden agendas.(Cash is cash.) Turkey may have agendas but both russia and iran have that agendas too..

Anyway, 50% of ROA is already sold to russia. You dont need to afraid from Turkey about this issue.

I appreciate your honesty about talking as a turk; yet may I remind you that on my part I always speak as an Armenian and obviously for ROA's interest until I die.

Yes it's true Diasporan Armenians are not effected economically; however as I said our hearts and souls are always with Armenia, we're always watching and supporting Armenia as much as we can from outside.

We don't want ROA to give anything to us; our republic is new and it is us who want to give to our beloved republic; it is called (unconditional love to our Armenia).

Now why would ROA limit our effectiveness towards our republic? We are watching closely, living with the ups and downs of our republic; therefore whatever we offer from our hearts and souls should be welcomed by Armenia as we only mean well. It goes without saying. Plus whatever we do, it isn't done without knowledge and intelligent calculations.

[Palavra]

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You think that physically or monetarily Diaspora Armenians will not lose from Armenia's bargains; but our minds and souls are always with Armenia. Should I remind you that although we're here outside of the state yet we think and support Armenia as our own lovely child.

I am not saying diaspora is not loving ROA but as you said, Diaspora wont be harmed from physically or monetarily. So They can easily ignore trade agreement or even threat of war.

I should also add that I am talking as a turk.

ROA need to give something back to diaspora for their loyalty and support. Only thing ROA can offer is cooperation with diaspora about AG issue and governing of ROA. ROA cannot easly ignore diaspora.

I hope ROA can limit effect of diaspora.(for Turkey.)

Iranians though have no hidden agendas, I pray and hope that turkey will start being as good a neighbour as Iran.

Turkish people have no hidden agendas.(Cash is cash.) Turkey may have agendas but both russia and iran have that agendas too..

Anyway, 50% of ROA is already sold to russia. You dont need to afraid from Turkey about this issue.

[Anoush]

Re: Vote now: Armenia-diaspora-turkey relations

It would be not good for turkey. If You are negotiating someone, You or She should gain or loose from bargain. Diaspora armenians had nothing to gain or loose from this bargain. So They will not make it easy for Turkey with their unrealistic wishes.

As far as negotiations, we expect and wish that RA makes the necessary restrictions and country safety measures for the sake of our Republic. You think that physically or monetarily Diaspora Armenians will not lose from Armenia's bargains; but our minds and souls are always with Armenia. Should I remind you that although we're here outside of the state yet we think about and support Armenia as our own lovely child.

werent armenians master traders? why are you afraiding? did iran occupied ROA with trade?

Iranians though have no hidden agendas, I pray and hope that turkey will start being as good a neighbour as Iran.