Re: The Struggle in Javakhk
You consider my comparison a misconception, but then you compare Switzerland to America....... I wonder which one is a bigger misconception. At the very least if your gonna call someone naive and foolish, do not follow it with an actual foolish statement
In 1940 Switzerland had a population of 4 million, with a mountainous country of 41,000 km2 (exact same as Armenia+Artsakh)
"The Swiss were not surrounded by muslim kurds and turcks who were easily aroused by religious justification to slaughter us" No they were surrounded by the most evil and vicious force in modern history aroused by ethnic justification to slaughter, a force many times more power full than the backward mongols
"Swtzerland was not preventing Germany from achieving its dream of the third reich while Armenia was very much in the way of panturkism."
Really???? Do you see any gaps in Germany's domination of Europe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzer...942_map_en.png
Switzerland was not considered an enemy to the Third Reich?
"Switzerland possessed the most disgusting and miserable people and political system. The Swiss were the mortal enemies of the new Germany."-Hitler
Plan to invade Switzerland: Operation Tannenbaum
Switzerland simply managed to maintain an independent state that was a haven for people who would have otherwise been murdered and a press that constantly slammed and humiliated the Third Reich because Switzerland used its mountainous terrain (sound familiar?) in ensuring that its conquest would be too costly for any enemy to attempt
So yes, I do believe comparing a country of a similar population size identical territory facing the most vicious force in modern history which considered it an enemy is a valid comparison, and is definitely not the same as comparing it to America, a country with 100X the population and 250X the size protected by two oceans.
My savior reference wasn't to you but Serjik and the many like him before who have been banned from this forum, who have considered Russia and Putin some God. I do not expect Russia to not act in self interest, I simply ask Armenia to the same. Any leader would gladly buy up and carve up the infrastructure of a foreign country to make it subservient to it. It takes a competent government of the other nation to prevent this from happening. I don't understand why Armenia is not allowed to be an independent nation? You constantly refer to these leaders who caused the Genocide. However you remind me awfully a lot of the leaders including Dro who called Garegin Njdeh foolish for going against their decision to surrender to the Soviets and just hope for the best. Instead Njdeh decided to keep fighting and created the Mountainous Armenian Republic and because of him we have Syunik and had a chance to retake Artsakh. If Njdeh had followed all the other cowards with the mentality that you so proudly hold up, Armenia would be a tiny city state bordered by Turks from three sides, likely starved to death by now. However thanks to his mentality, which you claim was the same that caused the Genocide, Armenia maintained Syunik, maintained its border to its only friendly neighbor, and was able to retake Artsakh. You see you somehow confuse not becoming a subservient of Russia as the same as being an enemy of Russia, or a subservient of the West. All I'm asking for is maintain a normal relationship, not a slave to master situation that you seem to find nothing wrong with. I wonder what Garegin Njdeh would think of this
I do not see Vrej single you out nearly as much as you single him out.
and I don't even want to get in on the who elites conspiracy stuff
I think the point is though I do not agree with the purpose of Lragir which is to destabilize Armenia, if the man is offering articles that offer content and actual facts, and stuff worth reporting, how about you refute the content rather than not address them
So to be clear you prefer a Russified Armenia subject to foreign rule rather than an independent Armenia that decides on its own faith and has to make its own decisions? Basically your argument is come be Russia's slave because you can't survive on your own? That we have to accept the current situation and we are otherwise incapable too backwards and weak to improve what we currently have? I apologize if I chose to believe Armenia will improve as a strong independent state and the only option in my world is not a bunch dark skinned Armenians pretending to be slavic orthodox to please the slave owner like a good house nig*er
Originally posted by Haykakan
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In 1940 Switzerland had a population of 4 million, with a mountainous country of 41,000 km2 (exact same as Armenia+Artsakh)
"The Swiss were not surrounded by muslim kurds and turcks who were easily aroused by religious justification to slaughter us" No they were surrounded by the most evil and vicious force in modern history aroused by ethnic justification to slaughter, a force many times more power full than the backward mongols
"Swtzerland was not preventing Germany from achieving its dream of the third reich while Armenia was very much in the way of panturkism."
Really???? Do you see any gaps in Germany's domination of Europe? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzer...942_map_en.png
Switzerland was not considered an enemy to the Third Reich?
"Switzerland possessed the most disgusting and miserable people and political system. The Swiss were the mortal enemies of the new Germany."-Hitler
Plan to invade Switzerland: Operation Tannenbaum
Switzerland simply managed to maintain an independent state that was a haven for people who would have otherwise been murdered and a press that constantly slammed and humiliated the Third Reich because Switzerland used its mountainous terrain (sound familiar?) in ensuring that its conquest would be too costly for any enemy to attempt
So yes, I do believe comparing a country of a similar population size identical territory facing the most vicious force in modern history which considered it an enemy is a valid comparison, and is definitely not the same as comparing it to America, a country with 100X the population and 250X the size protected by two oceans.
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Originally posted by Haykakan
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and I don't even want to get in on the who elites conspiracy stuff
I think the point is though I do not agree with the purpose of Lragir which is to destabilize Armenia, if the man is offering articles that offer content and actual facts, and stuff worth reporting, how about you refute the content rather than not address them
Originally posted by Haykakan
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