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Is this the end of the Diaspora?

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  • #81
    Re: Is this the end of the Diaspora?

    Originally posted by Anoush View Post
    Aahh apachi, when people of Armenia took to the streets and raised their voices MER HOGHER@ MER HOGHER@ in 1965; those were the days when the people of Armenia were under the wonderful influence of the likes of Charents and Sevak that every other of their poems were about our lost lands of Western Armenia, Nakhichevan, Artsakh, Akhalkalak and Akhaltsekha. In those times, the Armenian people had those two wonderful and patriotic writers which they do not have it now, alas. Today, the Armenian youth after 70 years of Soviet regime who pretty much killed the patriotic spirit of most Armenians by not allowing historical books to be read in schools and elsewhere and they never allowed the people to be patriotic.
    And 4 decades later, take to the streets and raise your voices and you will get shot, or beaten up, or arrested.
    And 4 decades later, most of the "historical books to be read in schools and elsewhere" that exist are those that were published during the Soviet era, in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s - from when people cared enough about books and literature and Armenian culture to actually stand in long queues to get the latest publications hot off the presses.
    Last edited by bell-the-cat; 10-29-2009, 04:05 PM.
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    • #82
      Re: Is this the end of the Diaspora?

      Originally posted by Kasa View Post
      Nobody said it is a easy process repatriating to Armenia. It is hard enough to move from one city to another let alone a whole country. But just because it is hard doesn't mean it can't happen. Yes, it takes sacrifice but Armenians in Armenia sacrifice also by insisting on living there and not leaving.

      And it doesn't have to be absolute, one is not imprisoned after moving to Armenia, one can travel abroad, move around, etc.

      The same spirit of boldness, daring, boasting and bravado that you see Armenians express, including on this forum of willing to go kill Turks left and right, and move to Western Armenian, blah blah blah, can be used to push through the difficulties and challenges of moving to Armenia and just get it done.

      And to all those guys and gals who still cling to a mentality from the 19th century of "taking a sword and slashing Turks left and right", it is time to use more brains and less brawn. We have proven that we have the brawn now we have use be smart and use our brains for resolving our problems and issues, because our enemies and adversaries are getting smarter. And brains can beat muscles anytime.
      Today's world doesn't require on the front lines but politically to be savvy and the know how; unfortunately though since we didn't rule our own country for 70+ years during soviet times, plus Western Armenia was under turkish rule since the 12th and the 13th century; therefore we were unable to have people to be educated and gain experience in world politics. We already found it out as of late; thanks to the pre-conditions imposed by turkey in the protocols.

      As far as repatriating to Armenia; I already stated in my previous posts that yes it is absolutely desirable and also imperative for some or more of Diasporans to repatriate, but not everyone can do that as I stated right above.
      Last edited by Anoush; 10-29-2009, 04:17 PM.

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      • #83
        Re: Is this the end of the Diaspora?

        The problem is not that Diaspora is not willing.
        It is the complete inability or lack of desire from the Armenia’s leadership to implement initiatives to draw Diaspora to Armenia and act as a single voice for all Armenians.

        Not even one stinking inspiring public message by our leaders………I know several who have sacrificed and returned bitter, but no less remain strong patriots.
        B0zkurt Hunter

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        • #84
          Re: Is this the end of the Diaspora?

          Maaannnn.... you guys are all depressing me. I say we pick an island... any island and take it over!! WHO'S WITH ME!?!?!?!!!!
          "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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          • #85
            Re: Is this the end of the Diaspora?

            Originally posted by kanadahye View Post
            maaannnn.... You guys are all depressing me. I say we pick an island... Any island and take it over!! Who's with me!?!?!?!!!!
            x1......
            B0zkurt Hunter

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            • #86
              Re: Is this the end of the Diaspora?

              Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
              Maaannnn.... you guys are all depressing me. I say we pick an island... any island and take it over!! WHO'S WITH ME!?!?!?!!!!
              x2.......

              Perhaps we should all go to Corfu and take over the turkish part of it and make it ours. We can certainly get along with our Greek brothers and they'll welcome us with open arms.
              Last edited by Anoush; 10-29-2009, 06:04 PM.

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              • #87
                Re: Is this the end of the Diaspora?

                Here's an island right here:






















                There's about 30,000 Azeris there, so I figure about 800-900 crazy Armenians should restore the historical wrong of ethnic cleansing. Who's with me?












                Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
                kurtçul kangal

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                • #88
                  Re: Is this the end of the Diaspora?

                  Originally posted by AlphaPapa View Post
                  Here's an island right here:






















                  There's about 30,000 Azeris there, so I figure about 800-900 crazy Armenians should restore the historical wrong of ethnic cleansing. Who's with me?












                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDhf8P6mSz0
                  I see you liked the video i posted
                  plus once we step into Nakichevan the 30,000 azeris will be joined with the turkish army.

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                  • #89
                    Re: Is this the end of the Diaspora?

                    Originally posted by AlphaPapa View Post
                    Is that video legit about the guy being Armenian?

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                    • #90
                      Re: Is this the end of the Diaspora?

                      Nine, ABRIS! I just noticed your name there! I owe you a drink if we meet offline...I've used that video so many times on another board where the Turks always gang up on me I swear, I have dreams like that about me at the Turkish Festival in Monterey or Irvine.

                      Muhaha, yes, you can hear the announcer say his name I hope there's a cameraman around if I ever get into a scuffle like that

                      BTW, I'm not worried about the Turkish Army. Even if they risk pissing off the EU, UN, and Russia, I'll be the first in line. Hopefully by then, I'll have a special delivery strapped to me that'll leave a bad taste in their mouths for months.



                      It's too bad we can't collaborate with Chaldeans, Assyrians, Kurds, and even Greeks to take Nakhitchevan and make it our own neo-Ottoman colony; but I can always dream I guess
                      Last edited by AlphaPapa; 10-30-2009, 11:48 AM.
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