Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

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Haykakan replied

03-11-2010, 07:52 PM
Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

Sev your outlook on capitolism is very much like my own. As for liberalism the very notion that everyone should have a fair shot at life is itself a liberal idea which brought down monarchy. I am not a liberal nor a conservative but i value the good that comes from both sides and point out the bad things to.
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SevSpitak replied

03-11-2010, 07:35 PM
Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post

No, I call liberal ideas liberal garbage. Socialism is about giving everyone a fair chance at life, not giving them a free ride.

That's fine, I'm not knocking what little any of us inside or outside the country can do, but the most important thing any of us can do is never forget who we are and being proud of our heritage. Liberalism doesn't recognize culture, it aims to remove identity from the person. Why would globalists want to recognize the Armenian Genocide when their goal is to eliminate culture and identity? They wouldn't, they wish to erase it from the history books so future generations won't know who is in control of their corrupt institutions.

I second this.

I'm not too fond of liberals, but the source of evil in all this is capitalism. This is the perfect illustration of what capitalism is. They call this image propaganda but it's the truth and we all know it.

Capitalism has all the flaws (and more) of communism (or socialism), except its negative effects are injected while we're asleep. And liberalism? Well, all I can say is, it sprouts idiots like this:

Sorry if that's rude. It's my point of view, and if it's too impolite, I'll remove it.

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KanadaHye replied

03-11-2010, 04:13 PM
Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

Originally posted by Haykakan View Post

well not all liberals are globalists and not everything about globalism is bad either. You are making too many unsubstantiated generalizations.

That's a B.S. statement

"The 20th century started perilously for liberalism. The First World War proved a major challenge for liberal democracies, although they ultimately defeated the dictatorial states of the Central Powers. The war precipitated the collapse of older forms of government, including empires and dynastic states. The number of republics in Europe reached 13 by the end of the war, as compared with only three at the start of the war in 1914"

So much for Liberals for peace eh? Yeah, Armenians got screwed in that deal.

"In a natural state of affairs, liberals argued, humans were driven by the instincts of survival and self-preservation, and the only way to escape from such a dangerous existence was to form a common and supreme power capable of arbitrating between competing human desires. This power could be formed in the framework of a civil society that allows individuals to make a voluntary social contract with the sovereign authority, transferring their natural rights to that authority in return for the protection of life, liberty, and property."

That's right, they own our natural rights to survival and self-preservation. But hey, they won't kill us or steal stuff from us as long as we give up our rights and instincts to survive.
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Haykakan replied

03-11-2010, 03:58 PM
Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

well not all liberals are globalists and not everything about globalism is bad either. You are making too many unsubstantiated generalizations.
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KanadaHye replied

03-11-2010, 03:46 PM
Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

Originally posted by Haykakan View Post

Why you gota be that way? You call socialist ideas liberal garbage yet you proclaim to be a socialist yourself. How the hell does that work? As for what country is mine all i gota say to that is atleast i have been there, spent time and money there, formed relations with fellow hayastantsis and established exactly the kind of relationship with hayastan which i propose we all try to do. What exactly have you done other then run your mouth without using your brain.

No, I call liberal ideas liberal garbage. Socialism is about giving everyone a fair chance at life, not giving them a free ride.

That's fine, I'm not knocking what little any of us inside or outside the country can do, but the most important thing any of us can do is never forget who we are and being proud of our heritage. Liberalism doesn't recognize culture, it aims to remove identity from the person. Why would globalists want to recognize the Armenian Genocide when their goal is to eliminate culture and identity? They wouldn't, they wish to erase it from the history books so future generations won't know who is in control of their corrupt institutions.
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Haykakan replied

03-11-2010, 01:43 PM
Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post

Which country is that? Azerbaijan, Turkey, Israel, U.K. or U.S.A?

Why you gota be that way? You call socialist ideas liberal garbage yet you proclaim to be a socialist yourself. How the hell does that work? As for what country is mine all i gota say to that is atleast i have been there, spent time and money there, formed relations with fellow hayastantsis and established exactly the kind of relationship with hayastan which i propose we all try to do. What exactly have you done other then run your mouth without using your brain.
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KanadaHye replied

03-11-2010, 01:29 PM
Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

Originally posted by Haykakan View Post

The ideas i have been arguing for are humanistic and they all are for the good or my people and country. If that scares you then thats your problem.

Which country is that? Azerbaijan, Turkey, Israel, U.K. or U.S.A?
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Haykakan replied

03-11-2010, 01:22 PM
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Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post

I'm a socialist, what's your point? I'm also a conservative when it comes to Armenian values. It doesn't mean I support any liberal or conservative parties because of the colours they wear on the outside. I'm starting to question which colours you really wear, frankly your views are scary.

The ideas i have been arguing for are humanistic and they all are for the good or my people and country. If that scares you then thats your problem.
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KanadaHye replied

03-11-2010, 01:14 PM
Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

Originally posted by Haykakan View Post

Trust me man your the one with the blinders on. Your avatar is our tricolors which is dashnaktsutiuns collors and guess what the dashnaks are a liberal party-they are socialists and you keep waving that flag while demonizing liberals-its pretty funny

I'm a socialist, what's your point? By socialist, I mean I think everyone deserves a right to education and health. I'm also a conservative when it comes to Armenian values and fiscal matters. It doesn't mean I support any liberal or conservative parties because of the colours they wear on the outside. I'm starting to question which colours you really wear, frankly your views are scary.

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Haykakan replied

03-11-2010, 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by Armanen View Post

Dashnak color is red.

The tricolor is the symbol of socialism ie Vennenzuelas flag and a few others. So Kanadahye is waving the liberal flag while dishing liberals. Makes me wonder what levon was doing while dishing gays and women.
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