Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

[Mukuch]

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Well now we know why the resolution is going to the floor for a vote-to pressure turckey on the iran issue. Its kind of strange how this is working- the armenian genocide is being used to isolate Armenia's only friendly neighbor (which is bad for Armenia).

So acording to you the passing of resolution to the floor of Congress is bad for Armenia?

No comments....

[Haykakan]

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Armenian Genocide Resolution cannot be blocked: U.S. Department of State

09:25 / 03/18/2010The resolution on the recognition of Armenian Genocide adopted by U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs would go forward despite the position of Obama administration, U.S. Assistant Secretary for European and Eurasian Affairs Philip Gordon told the journalists, Associated Press reports.

He refuted any deal with congressional leaders to block the resolution.

“Congress is an independent body, and they are going to do what they decide to do,” Gordon emphasized in his speech at Brookings Institution.

Meanwhile, Gordon said the vote slowed down U.S.-Turkey relations at the time when the country is seeking assistance from Turkey to rein in Iran's nuke program. However, he added U.S. has not seen deterioration in cooperation with Turkey on a wide range of foreign policy issues.

According to him, the resolution is an obstacle for Turkey-Armenia normalization talks, however, the process did not come to a deadlock. “I really think the leaders of two states are determined to do this,” he underlined.

Obama administration thinks the historical issues are solved by two countries within the framework of reconciliation talks, Gordon outlined.

In his speech, Gordon called Turkey to exert pressure on Iran, considering Ankara a major trading partner. He criticized Turkey for not supporting the resolution at the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) demanding that Iran suspend construction of nuke facilities.

“While the international community has sought to present a single, coordinated stance to Iran, Turkey at times makes inconsistent statements,” Gordon noted.

L.A.

Well now we know why the resolution is going to the floor for a vote-to pressure turckey on the iran issue. Its kind of strange how this is working- the armenian genocide is being used to isolate Armenia's only friendly neighbor (which is bad for Armenia).

[Mukuch]

Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

Armenian Genocide Resolution cannot be blocked: U.S. Department of State

09:25 / 03/18/2010The resolution on the recognition of Armenian Genocide adopted by U.S. House Committee on Foreign Affairs would go forward despite the position of Obama administration, U.S. Assistant Secretary for European and Eurasian Affairs Philip Gordon told the journalists, Associated Press reports.

He refuted any deal with congressional leaders to block the resolution.

“Congress is an independent body, and they are going to do what they decide to do,” Gordon emphasized in his speech at Brookings Institution.

Meanwhile, Gordon said the vote slowed down U.S.-Turkey relations at the time when the country is seeking assistance from Turkey to rein in Iran's nuke program. However, he added U.S. has not seen deterioration in cooperation with Turkey on a wide range of foreign policy issues.

According to him, the resolution is an obstacle for Turkey-Armenia normalization talks, however, the process did not come to a deadlock. “I really think the leaders of two states are determined to do this,” he underlined.

Obama administration thinks the historical issues are solved by two countries within the framework of reconciliation talks, Gordon outlined.

In his speech, Gordon called Turkey to exert pressure on Iran, considering Ankara a major trading partner. He criticized Turkey for not supporting the resolution at the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) demanding that Iran suspend construction of nuke facilities.

“While the international community has sought to present a single, coordinated stance to Iran, Turkey at times makes inconsistent statements,” Gordon noted.

L.A.

[Davo88]

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"Fatih Altayli, editor-in-chief of Haberturk daily, was more sarcastic: "Soon, there will be no Turkish ambassadors left abroad and no foreign country our officials can visit." "

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62B2U920100312

I have to agree with him here.

[ashot24]

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That's good to know. However, it still proves what haykakan said is not true.

I always tell people from any of those three countries that they should be re united again! That would be a pretty powerful country, but of course uncle sam and its tools in these nations would never allow that to occur.

Yeah, I always tell people as well, if I can be a little offtopic...I mean imagine the incredible advantage we would have if not only former GC but whole Latin America would unite as a country. A whole continent [excluding Brazil and the colonies] speaking one language and having one single ethnic background, that's a huge advantage if we compare with the USSR and Yugoslavia, we would save the problems with ethnic conflicts....But no, besides the fact the US and A would never allow it, people here have a lot of issues towards each other for no logical reason, even in a same country, which is a really big problem.

However, a de facto truth and although no one likes to recognize it, Latin America is a big country and its countries are different provinces or regions of a whole. People from around can't be considered as foreigners, they are just 'paisanos' [fellow countrymen] with funny accents lol.

[Armanen]

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No, that's the meaning it was given by the former Gran Colombia states (Venezuela, Colombia, and Ecuador) after its dissolution. The original flag, designed by Franscisco de Miranda, was designed after the idea of the primary colors Goether gave him, citing his words:

That's good to know. However, it still proves what haykakan said is not true.

I always tell people from any of those three countries that they should be re united again! That would be a pretty powerful country, but of course uncle sam and its tools in these nations would never allow that to occur.

[ashot24]

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Our flag is not the same as Venezuela's, and I have never heard of Venezuela's flag colors having anything to do with socialism. More like it represents, the sun, water and blood spilled for independence.

No, that's the meaning it was given by the former Gran Colombia states (Venezuela, Colombia, and Ecuador) after its dissolution. The original flag, designed by Franscisco de Miranda, was designed after the idea of the primary colors Goether gave him, citing his words:

[...] the iris transforms light into the three primary colors […] yellow is the most warm, noble and closest to white light [...] blue is that mix of excitement and serenity, a distance that evokes shadows [...] red is the exaltation of yellow and blue, the synthesis, the vanishing of light into shadow. It is not that the world is made of yellows, blues and reds; it is that in this manner, as if in an infinite combination of these three colors, we human beings see it.

There is also a funny story about the flag of the GC. It says after an visit to Russia [Empire back then], Miranda [an alleged lover of Catherine II] was given a Russian flag [white, blue, red]...but after the long trip back home, the white turned into yellow because of the dirtiness of the ship.

[Armanen]

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The tricolor is the symbol of socialism ie Vennenzuelas flag and a few others. So Kanadahye is waving the liberal flag while dishing liberals. Makes me wonder what levon was doing while dishing gays and women.

Our flag's colors are not the same as Venezuela's, and I have never heard of Venezuela's flag colors having anything to do with socialism. More like it represents, the sun, water and blood spilled for independence.

[SevSpitak]

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No objection here.

Wait, I just re-read what you said and I do have an objection. I don't think conservatives didn't agree with giving a shot at life to everyone. The snobs at the top probably did (but that's no different than liberals who mask it with politics), but not the common conservative folk. I think you can infer the word "justice" in "give a shot at life to all," and all positive ideologies aim at bringing justice to people.

But I agree, we need a little bit of both to survive today.

Anyway, I'm going to bed so I'll continue tomorrow (I love discussions like this )

[Haykakan]

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Then again... his son went through 1915..

I take that back.

LOL