Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

[Mukuch]

Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

Guys, sins when we are on the sofa of amateur psychologist turks?)))
Jos, piss of... our pain is not of your xxxxen concern.

[Jos]

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We have also inherited the psychological effects as they were passed down generation to generation.

I think both you and Haykakan make interesting points. Perhaps I'm starting to understand - the psychological effects can often be more profound than the actual physical harm. But surely, burdening every generation with the pains of generations past is not a healthy proposition. And attacking embassies and killing diplomats would never help with the pyschological aspects, but only make them worse. I guessing it's a quick rush (like drinking cola it makes you feel good for while but ultimately you feel worse later on).

[Mukuch]

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The key difference is that Palestinian violence is a manifestation of 'present day injustices' and Armenian violence is based on a 'historical injustice'. They are not the same thing ie direct v indirect. Though I'm sure many of you will disagree regardless because you have inherited the stories of injustice as if they were your own.

You are wrong. The bigest injustice is THE DENIEL. And it is a very PRESENT DAY injustice.

[Mukuch]

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In other words, missions objective accomplished because it helped spread the word. I think the military refer to this as 'collateral damage'.

Collateral to the armenians maybe but not to the poor old security guard and his family.

What about poor 1.5 million inocents and their families?
One death is tragedy and 1.5 millions is a stastics? I dont mind one dead redneck for establishing justice for 1.5 million inocent victims.

[Haykakan]

Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

The key difference is that Palestinian violence is a manifestation of 'present day injustices' and Armenian violence is based on a 'historical injustice'. They are not the same thing ie direct v indirect. Though I'm sure many of you will disagree regardless because you have inherited the stories of injustice as if they were your own.

They are very much our own! We would be doing a great disservice to our ancestors if we did not treat them as such. We cannot begin to comprehend how our lives have been effected by this event. They saw the violence and we see our homeland without us in it, they suffered the marches and we suffer assimilation. We are very much victims of this tragic genocide even if it doesnt feel like it. There is a difference between direct and indirect but that difference does not make it much less painful thus if you can justify the actions of a palastinian terrorist, then the actions of a armenian terrorist can be justified in a similar manner. What makes them more alike then anything else is the helplessness in the wake of a huge injustice.

[KanadaHye]

Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

The key difference is that Palestinian violence is a manifestation of 'present day injustices' and Armenian violence is based on a 'historical injustice'. They are not the same thing ie direct v indirect. Though I'm sure many of you will disagree regardless because you have inherited the stories of injustice as if they were your own.

We have also inherited the psychological effects as they were passed down generation to generation.

[Jos]

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Powerlessness against injustice of large magnitude will lead people to act in irrational ways. The palastinian situation is a good example of this. I do not blame the palastinians nor these armenian boys for acting like they did, they do it out of frustration. If the world wants things like this to stop then it should become more just. The death of the gaurd and imprisonment for the young men are tragdies which would have been avoided had there been justice. Give palastinians justice and they will no longer be terrorists-the same for our boys. I do not condone young people throwing their lives away nor hurting innocent people but i totally understand why they do what they did.

The key difference is that Palestinian violence is a manifestation of 'present day injustices' and Armenian violence is based on a 'historical injustice'. They are not the same thing ie direct v indirect. Though I'm sure many of you will disagree regardless because you have inherited the stories of injustice as if they were your own.

[Eddo211]

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In other words, missions objective accomplished because it helped spread the word. I think the military refer to this as 'collateral damage'.

Collateral to the armenians maybe but not to the poor old security guard and his family.

The guard did not deserve to die. Do we know for sure that they were not acting alone? I bet they were. Too slopy.

[Jos]

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They shouldn't have killed the guard. Big mistake and poor planning .....regardless they helped in spreading the word.

In other words, missions objective accomplished because it helped spread the word. I think the military refer to this as 'collateral damage'.

Collateral to the armenians maybe but not to the poor old security guard and his family.

[Yedtarts]

Re: Recognition of Armenian Genocide by USA

How it's done in Canada? What a dead Canadian, Turkish ambassador with only a broken leg, and 3 delusional fools that wasted significant parts of their lives rotting in prison. Incompetence and stupidity are two words that springs to mind.

R.I.P. CLAUDE BRUNELLE aged 31 - the murdered security guard that happened to working at the Turkish embassy on that day (he was also a student at the University of Ottawa at the time).

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