Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh): what is your opinion about making concessions?

[levon]

Re: Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh): what is your opinion about making concessions?

No Concessions, EVER! You give a hungry dog a piece of meat it'll bite your whole hand. Azeri's aren't interested in parts of Karabagh, they want the whole thing along with parts of Armenia. It's extremely foolish to think that giving concessions will get us peace.

They lost the land. If they want it back they can start another war. No concessions, EVER. No land was ever gained without blood, and no land should ever be given back without blood.

[Federate]

Re: Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh): what is your opinion about making concessions?

All of the area around is ancient and historic its wrong to choose which one is more or less significant.
This tread has nothing to give instead we should make a tread about how should we return our forefathers lands,thats one we are missing in this forum...

http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread.php?t=7562

[UrMistake]

Re: Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh): what is your opinion about making concessions?

Never give Agdam back. It is where the ancient Armenian city of Tigranakert is found. Agdam is just as Armenian as Mardakert or Hadrut.

All of the area around is ancient and historic its wrong to choose which one is more or less significant.
This tread has nothing to give instead we should make a tread about how should we return our forefathers lands,thats one we are missing in this forum...

[Federate]

Re: Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh): what is your opinion about making concessions?

Personally, I could live with it if they only gave Agdam back, as the other regions are too beautiful and have too many historical Armenian monuments to be given back to these barbarians (of the 280 Armenian churches in Nakhichevan today 0 are standing). As Azerbaboonistan will not accept this, the story ends here.

Never give Agdam back. It is where the ancient Armenian city of Tigranakert is found. Agdam is just as Armenian as Mardakert or Hadrut.

[Davo88]

Re: Artsakh (Nagorno-Karabakh): what is your opinion about making concessions?

One must not forget that the Nagorno-Karabakh borders were drawn arbitrarily by Stalin in order to make it look like it's an integral part of Azerbaijan, while in reality, Karabakh is a much larger region including the historically Armenian Shahumian district just north of Karabakh that unfortunately remains today under Azerbaijan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahumian

If we return one or two districts, are we going to get some of Shahumian in exchange? I doubt the Azeris would be making such concessions. If we do return one or two districts, however, there should not be a presence of Azeri troops and could possibly be patrolled by some kind of multinational peacekeeping force. Same for the NKR-Azeri border.

As for Agdam, it was essentially an Azeri city but was too close to Nagorno-Karabakh for it to be left standing...

[Tigranakert]

The coming years are decisive for the future of Nagorno-Karabakh. What are your opinions, should we make concessions in order for peace and the international recognition of Artsakh, or not?

Everyone agrees that if we should make concessions, the status of Artsakh should be determined immediatly, otherwise it would be foolish to do so.

So presuming Artsakh will get international recognition, what do you think about the surrounding of the other historical Armenian territories surrounding Artsakh?

Karvachar (Kelbajar). A lot of ancient-old Armenian churches, castles and other monuments can be found in this region, which is one of the region which is being discussed to be ''given back''.



All the regions are too beautiful and have too many historical Armenian monuments to be given back to these barbarians (of the 280 Armenian churches in Nakhichevan today 0 are standing). The story ends here.

But I think time is on our side, as the oil money will be exhausted within 20 years and there will be a lot of political instability in Azerbaijan as they have a dictatorship which will not last long, it is doomed to bring instability the second it goes wrong.

The best option for us, even if it sounds crazy, is to hope Azerbaijan will be foolish enough to attack us, that would be our chance to solve this once and for all. We should heavily invest in our army for this to succeed, and if possible to provocate Azerbaijan into starting a war (and doing everything we can to destabilize Azerbaijan, by trying to create a wedge between Azerbaijan, whose leaders are Kurdish, and Turkey, by supporting Iranian Mullahs who can create chaos within Azerbaijan, by supporting Talish and Lezgins, supporting a pro-Russian regime change in Georgia, etc).