Iranian-Armenian relations

[gegev]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

.....one thing is very obvious though, and that is he has something very personnal against Iranians (regardless of how many times he denies it), something has happened in his life, and this has nothing to do with Armenian Iranian relationship in general.
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Mos has nothing to do in politics, it is too early for him!

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Mos has nothing to do in politics, it is too early for him!

gegev, es harcum du xosalu tegh chunes.

[gegev]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

gegev, es harcum du xosalu tegh chunes.

Shataxosutyun@ qo xoselu iravunq@ chi avelacnum. Da xosel chi. Ashxarhi het xosog@ piti xelq@ glxin, ashxarhin haskanali (och te mimiayn hayerin) aselu ban unena. Menq ashxarhin zenqov mer het hashvi nstelu zorutyun chunenq, bajc xelqov, mer unecac zorutyan het miasin, karog enq da anel. Ashxarh@ mer ov linelu masin naev ays forumneri mijotsov e gaxapar kazmum. Menq petq e aynqan xeloq u iskapes lav@ linenq or erb orhasakan pah@ ga mer tshnaminer@ qich linen, is barekamner@ ev neytralner@ shat.

[Mos]

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Shataxosutyun@ qo xoselu iravunq@ chi avelacnum. Da xosel chi. Ashxarhi het xosog@ piti xelq@ glxin, ashxarhin haskanali (och te mimiayn hayerin) aselu ban unena. Menq ashxarhin zenqov mer het hashvi nstelu zorutyun chunenq, bajc xelqov, mer unecac zorutyan het miasin, karog enq da anel.

Ես էսքան վախտ ուղակի փորձում եմ ստեղի մարդկանց հասկացնեմ որ էտ պարսիկները մեր երկրի ու ազգի դեմ խոսքեր են ասում: Էտ խոսքերով իրանք փորձում են մեր պատմությունը, մշակույթը, ու ազգը դնել պարսկական անունի տակ ու ինչ որ իրանք անում են շատ սխալ է ու ցավալի: Ես իրանի ու հայաստանի հարաբերություների դեմ բան չեմ ասում ու իմ կարծիքով շատ կարեվոր են այտ հարաբերություները հայաստանի համար, բայց խստորեն մերժում եմ էտ ազգայնական ու սխալ խոսքերը էտ պարսիկներից հայաստանի վերաբերյալ: Ես խոսալու իրավունք էս հարցում անկասկած ունեմ ու ես չեմ թողնելու էս պարսիկները ստեր փչեն մեր երկրի ու մշակույթի մասին:

[lipton]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

This topic is made to discuss the Iranian-Armenian relationship.

Are you not ashamed of this? Handshaking with an Azeri... He also speaks fluent turkish

[Mukuch]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

I speak some turkish as well... what is your problem? Who said he is an azeri? And if even so there are azeries and azerbajanis...(means iranians and turks)

[Persopolis]

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I speak some turkish as well... what is your problem? Who said he is an azeri? And if even so there are azeries and azerbajanis...(means iranians and turks)

You're correct. The interesting thing is that not a lot of Armenians understand the distinction between Azerbaijani and Azari. Not that it makes a difference here among a small group of people -- but on a larger scale it makes a big difference. The fact remains that Armenia's East and West borders already have enemies that would like to see the demise of Armenia. And if Armenians, on a wide scale, don't understand the difference between Azerbaijani and Azari it can escalate into the demise of Armenia (and we're not talking a long drawn out war - more like a weekend; and I doubt Russia would do anything about it; and the Azaris wouldn't care if they tried). If the Iranian-Azaris get into it, you can be certain it's a game changer. If the Iranian-Azaris change their posture towards Armenia, I can even envision a scenario where Russia immediately cuts Armenia loose. Remember the Russians lost the war in Afghanistan and lost the first Chechen war - can you imagine the implications for Russia if the Turkish military and the Iranian military take a united front against Armenia. Game over.

Of course I don't wish any of this - and I purposely have left my comment vague (but I have a suspicion as to how the Iranian-Azaris would handle it).

Ahmadinejad is also not a typical Iranian - his name real name was Sabourjian and I a while back I read that one of his great grandparents came from New Julfa (not sure how accurate it is). You can read about him here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...xish-past.html He also does not wield any military power in Iran.

[KarotheGreat]

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You're correct. The interesting thing is that not a lot of Armenians understand the distinction between Azerbaijani and Azari. Not that it makes a difference here among a small group of people -- but on a larger scale it makes a big difference. The fact remains that Armenia's East and West borders already have enemies that would like to see the demise of Armenia. And if Armenians, on a wide scale, don't understand the difference between Azerbaijani and Azari it can escalate into the demise of Armenia (and we're not talking a long drawn out war - more like a weekend; and I doubt Russia would do anything about it; and the Azaris wouldn't care if they tried). If the Iranian-Azaris get into it, you can be certain it's a game changer. If the Iranian-Azaris change their posture towards Armenia, I can even envision a scenario where Russia immediately cuts Armenia loose. Remember the Russians lost the war in Afghanistan and lost the first Chechen war - can you imagine the implications for Russia if the Turkish military and the Iranian military take a united front against Armenia. Game over.

Of course I don't wish any of this - and I purposely have left my comment vague (but I have a suspicion as to how the Iranian-Azaris would handle it).

Ahmadinejad is also not a typical Iranian - his name real name was Sabourjian and I a while back I read that one of his great grandparents came from New Julfa (not sure how accurate it is). You can read about him here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...xish-past.html He also does not wield any military power in Iran.

First Turkey is a member of NATO and Iran is an enemy of NATO. So in what scenario do you see those two countries joining up to attack Armenia will never happen. Why would the second strongest military be scared of Iran, a country that is getting more sanctions every months and needs Russian support in the UN?

Lets say Iran attacks Armenia, what will it gain? It will show the world what they believe Iran is, an evil regime that needs to be stopped as soon as possible. Don't you think the West will use this as an excuse to start bombing Iran, I can already see the headlines: Islamic Iran attacks Armenia, Imperialistic Iran tries to destroy the Armenians etc. You get the picture, I think Iran is the last country to attack Armenia. Georgia will attack sooner than Iran. No one in Armenia is worried that Iran will attack.
Armenia maybe in a difficult position but Irans position is not much better and it isn't improving.

[arakeretzig]

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You're correct. The interesting thing is that not a lot of Armenians understand the distinction between Azerbaijani and Azari. Not that it makes a difference here among a small group of people -- but on a larger scale it makes a big difference. The fact remains that Armenia's East and West borders already have enemies that would like to see the demise of Armenia. And if Armenians, on a wide scale, don't understand the difference between Azerbaijani and Azari it can escalate into the demise of Armenia (and we're not talking a long drawn out war - more like a weekend; and I doubt Russia would do anything about it; and the Azaris wouldn't care if they tried). If the Iranian-Azaris get into it, you can be certain it's a game changer. If the Iranian-Azaris change their posture towards Armenia, I can even envision a scenario where Russia immediately cuts Armenia loose. Remember the Russians lost the war in Afghanistan and lost the first Chechen war - can you imagine the implications for Russia if the Turkish military and the Iranian military take a united front against Armenia. Game over.

Of course I don't wish any of this - and I purposely have left my comment vague (but I have a suspicion as to how the Iranian-Azaris would handle it).

Ahmadinejad is also not a typical Iranian - his name real name was Sabourjian and I a while back I read that one of his great grandparents came from New Julfa (not sure how accurate it is). You can read about him here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...xish-past.html He also does not wield any military power in Iran.

bla bla bla bla. what a dork.

[Persopolis]

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First Turkey is a member of NATO and Iran is an enemy of NATO. So in what scenario do you see those two countries joining up ....

Iran & Turkey already directly cooperate on military matters against the PKK - so neither direct nor indirect cooperation b/w Turkey & Iran is an impossibility. I stated what the scenario might be - Armenians put Azerbaijanis & Iranian-Azaris in the same basket ... the situation gradually escalates ... which causes the latter to realign and support Turkey and Azerbaijan or use the sway they have with other groups and states in the region to get involved.
(Wars have started over less. Again this is not my wish - but it's a possibility.)