Iranian-Armenian relations

[Joseph]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

The majority of Armenians see Iran positively and I don't think that will change

Iran was a refuge for Armenians escaping Turkish massacres 100 years ago, or Armenians
opposed to the Soviet regime 90 years ago

Agree. Armenia and Iran are friends. Can we just leave it at that?

[Artsakh]

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I pointed out that something like this could happen -- particularly given that I am Iranian and know that Iranians could change their views on Armenia in light of some of the views here that seem indicative of the views of other Armenians on a wider scale; these are the comments I got regarding my forecast:





Trust me - Iranians are not passive; If comments like Mos's are spreading over the internet by Armenians - Iranians will take a drastically different view of Armenia. Without intending to be impolite, Turkey would love nothing more than to convince Iran that Armenians are jerks.

Ya, you're right. It has began. Check this article out: http://www.armenialiberty.org/conten...e/9497936.html

Armenia and Georgia have now formed a military alliance. This will follow the removal of Russia forces and their replacement with US and Isareli ones in preparation for an attack on Iran. Yes, yes, yes, it's happening............

[Joseph]

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Ya, you're right. It has began. Check this article out: http://www.armenialiberty.org/conten...e/9497936.html

Armenia and Georgia have now formed a military alliance. This will follow the removal of Russia forces and their replacement with US and Isareli ones in preparation for an attack on Iran. Yes, yes, yes, it's happening............

I have read the press and Armenia and Georgia are not forming a military alliance. They have agreed to share more information and keep contacts. Armenia just signed a Russian basing, technical, and alliance agreement for 40 years with Russia. Armenia will not be used as a base for an attack on Iran. In fact, Armenia is being sanctioned by the US for having good relations with Iran.

[Joseph]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

I pointed out that something like this could happen -- particularly given that I am Iranian and know that Iranians could change their views on Armenia in light of some of the views here that seem indicative of the views of other Armenians on a wider scale; these are the comments I got regarding my forecast:


Trust me - Iranians are not passive; If comments like Mos's are spreading over the internet by Armenians - Iranians will take a drastically different view of Armenia. Without intending to be impolite, Turkey would love nothing more than to convince Iran that Armenians are jerks.

Again. Armenia and Iran are friendly nations with a developing relationship. They have increased trade, diplomatic contacts, cultural exchanges, etc. They share many of the same enemies. They have lived in peace and understanding for centuries. This is not going to change despite what some on this forum may or may not believe. How much more can be said?

[ArmSurvival]

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Yes I think you are exagerating the guilt of Israelis and underminding the uglines of palestinian terorism.

No. If you look at the statistics, over 30 times more Palestinian civilians have died compared to Israeli civilians. So that means for each time you talk about Palestinian crimes, you have to mention Israeli crimes 30 times just to keep things balanced with reality (if reality is important to you).

For every time you mention Hamas denying Israel's right to exist, you have to mention all the Israeli political parties which do not recognize a Palestinian state.

Theres more but I think you get the point.

BTW Would you agree for 2 state solution in Karabakh?

In the Karabagh conflict, we are the Palestinians (indigenous natives being attacked by a stronger military) while Azeris are the Israelis (brand new state created and armed by world powers who are trying to displace the natives).

And yes I support a 2-state solution for Artsakh. Azerbaijan and Artsakh should be two separate states!

[ArmSurvival]

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Trust me - Iranians are not passive; If comments like Mos's are spreading over the internet by Armenians - Iranians will take a drastically different view of Armenia.

The comments will not "spread over the internet" unless you spread them yourself. You already mentioned that you will show anti-Iranian comments to your Iranian buddies, so you didn't leave anything to the imagination. I don't know if you were serious or if you said it just to make a point, but its not a good way to make a point.


Nobody here is questioning the importance of the Armenian-Iranian cooperation in regards to Armenia's current position (Iran's as well). I even hold the opinion that Iranians are genetically and culturally the closest ethnic group to Armenians. However, just because you don't agree with everything Mos or Karo say doesn't mean you should paint a whole new picture of Armenians in your head. Nobody on this forum agrees 100% with the next person. You are taking your personal disagreements and magnifying them into political and geo-strategic issues. Have a beer man. Relax.

[Mos]

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I have read the press and Armenia and Georgia are not forming a military alliance. They have agreed to share more information and keep contacts. Armenia just signed a Russian basing, technical, and alliance agreement for 40 years with Russia. Armenia will not be used as a base for an attack on Iran. In fact, Armenia is being sanctioned by the US for having good relations with Iran.

How so are we being sanction by the US?

It is strategically impossible for Armenia and Georgia to have a close military alliance given our security interests differ. There can be cooperation but to a limited extent.

[Mos]

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A video about the Georgian visit. In my view, it's is good we are deepening our ties with Georgia, however, we have to be careful that Georgia is not being 2 faced, because they have good such relations with Azerbaijan, and could really utilise their unique position. There are many obstacles that lie for us to have meaningful strategic relations, such strategic relations is much easier between Georgia and Azerbaijan.

http://www.azatutyun.am/video/17837.html

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Ya, you're right. It has began. Check this article out: http://www.armenialiberty.org/conten...e/9497936.html

Armenia and Georgia have now formed a military alliance. This will follow the removal of Russia forces and their replacement with US and Isareli ones in preparation for an attack on Iran. Yes, yes, yes, it's happening............

1915 = Armenian Genocide.
2011 = Armenian Suicide.

P.S. I like Armenians - don't get me wrong. But I think some among you are your worst enemies.

* To Russia Armenia is 3 things: a military base; a highly indebted economic colony to be exploited by oligarchs; and a potential physical colony.
* To Turkey and Azerbaijan Armenia is a wall that needs to be knocked down so they can expand into the Caucuses and Central Asia as one unit.
* To Iran Armenia is former friend waking up from the the Soviet slumber and Iran is going through a feeling-out process to see if the same people it knew more than 200 years ago are there, or whether they've been replaced by a Russian 5th column.

Neither Israel nor the U.S. can do anything for Armenia, except try to take it over for themselves - which would start WWIII.

Hope the diagram helps you understand what is going on: I know what the results of this game will be in the Long Term:

[Mos]

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How the hell is this suicide? Artsakh is just jumping to foregone conclusions regarding this.