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  • Mos
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    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
    Do you really believe that? How can you believe that?
    You know you are one of the fools in history who that no war could come because one of other alliance or organisation. History proved every one of them wrong and trust me it will prove you wrong as well.
    yes but world is a different place now, wars are becoming more and more outdated. That's why turkey joining the EU actually may be a good thing for us, as they will have to behave themselves no matter what.

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  • KarotheGreat
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    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    The days of potential Turkish aggression against us are over. not because they like us or something, but because they are trying to get into the EU and gain more legitimacy with the international community.
    Do you really believe that? How can you believe that?
    You know you are one of the fools in history who that no war could come because one of other alliance or organisation. History proved every one of them wrong and trust me it will prove you wrong as well.

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  • Mos
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    The days of potential Turkish aggression against us are over. not because they like us or something, but because they are trying to get into the EU and gain more legitimacy with the international community.

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  • londontsi
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    Originally posted by lampron View Post
    I don't want Turkish aircraft over Armenia's skies in exchange for empty promises from the EU!
    My understanding is that Turkish aircraft are allowed to fly over Armenia as part of a reciprocal agreement.

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  • lampron
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    Russia is a military ally and most of Armenia's weapons come from Russia. I don't see NATO members offering weapons to Armenia. Armenia must deepen her ties with the EU, US as well as Iran, Arab states, India etc, but while NATO is on the side of Armenia's opponents, the current policy is the only one available.

    As we know most ordinary Russians and Ukrainians don't know the difference between Armenian, Georgian, Abkhaz, 'Azerbaijani', Chechen, Daghestani, even Turkish,Kazakh, Uzbek, Kirghiz, Tatar etc. So Armenians can suffer racial harassment. That is very unpleasant for Armenians. But Russia will remain an ally as long as Turkey and Azerbaijan remain threats. If in 25-30 years these threats disappear, then it's a different matter. I don't want Turkish aircraft over Armenia's skies in exchange for empty promises from the EU!

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  • UrMistake
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    You are both right we shall fight the problem,the times are hard and we need change,we know the obvious problems that are holding back the growth we should point them and demand solutions.

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  • Mos
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    P.S. Instead of your stupid avatar with the European Union Slavery Pact flag on it, better put one where our beloved Artsakh is also included. Not even talking about your preferences to put 100% anti-Dashnak, instead of 100% anti-Aliyev or whatsoever. People like you are in essence our current day enemies. Not only we have to fight with the baboons, but also take care for the destructive mentality of your kind.
    I'm the enemy, really?? Just because I disagree with the politics of the Dashnaks? You're allowed to have a differing opinion, and people in Armenia are not shy to criticize some of the policies of the Dashnaks.

    The (armenian) enemy of Armenia are the oligarchs which steal money from the people and have made the lives of some people a living hell. They take the money of poor people and go gamble in the casinos near the airport, or maybe even go to Monte Carlo. They are the ones that hold us back from serious reform and having a government that is legitimate in representing its people.

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  • Mos
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    Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
    I am happy Armenia is a vassal to Russia, we should try to take maximum advantage of this, as one day in internal chaos this could stop indeed. An example is the construction of a new nuclear power plant, even if Russia does not support us in the future, they can not ''cut'' and ''paste'' the power plant in another country, no it will remain a valuable Armenian asset because of the times we had a ''good'' relationship with the Russian Federation.

    Long live the Russian Federation, which compared to Western countries, is a big ally.

    P.S. Instead of your stupid avatar with the European Union Slavery Pact flag on it, better put one where our beloved Artsakh is also included.
    How is being a vassal good? We lose our independence in the process, and Russia decides everything for us. You want Putin deciding Armenia's future?? No, Armenia should pursue an independent foreign policy that maintains good relations with Russia, West, Iran, etc. Our political reforms should be done in accordance with EU, and they are being done so. Russia is not really bastion of human rights or democratic process. Our economic relations are strongest with EU and we should maintain that, including participating in EU projects which we are, as we are considered part of Europe in this realm.

    At the same time, we should still maintain good relations with Russia, but being their vassal is going to far, and puts us in danger. Also realize EU is very intent on having good relations with Russia as the cold war mentality is decreasing. Don't be blind to the dealings that Russia has done with Turkey and Azerbaijan, and even though they've helped us at time during history, they've also sold us to the Turks.

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  • Tigranakert
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    350,000 Armenian citizens involved in sects

    November 10, 2010 | 17:00

    A total of 64 sects are officially registered in Armenia. Over 100 non-official religious organizations are functioning as well, Alexander Amaryan, head of Center for Rehabilitation and Assistance to Victims of Destructive Cults, said during today’s Yerevan-Moscow-Georgia-Ukraine space bridge.

    At the moment sects involve 350,000 people, 100,000 out of them being members of destructive sects, he said, adding that it is quite large number for a 3 million populated country. Amaryan wonders how Armenia could preserve Christianity being under Islamic influence for 6 centuries but lost belief in Armenian Apostolic church within recent 20 years of its independence. According to him, current state with religion is conditioned by manipulations of sects coming from West.

    Alexander Dvorkin, director of the Russian St. Irenaeus of Lyon Center of Religious Studies, noted that there is no official data on sects in Russia, but about 600-800,000 people are involved. The number of official sects in Russia reaches 80, while non-official ones – about 1000.

    Unlike sects functioning in Armenia, that are of western origin, organization functioning in the territory of Russia were also formed in post-Soviet area, for instance Krishnaists moved to Russia from Armenia.

    Kakhaber Kurtanidze, clergyman of Georgian Orthodox Church, says that only three sects are functioning in Georgia. The most dangerous is “Jehovah’s Witnesses”, as members of religious organization oppose treatment of children.

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  • Tigranakert
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    Originally posted by Mos View Post
    Though I believe we should have good relations with Russia, we should also be careful that Russia does not sell us to the dogs when the time is right. Remember, Armenia to Russia is a vassal which it can manipulate for its own interests, especially given the fact it's trying to build its dominance in the South Caucuses. To achieve this it will maintain good relations with both Armenia and Azerbaijan, and get involved in the Karabakh process. Believing that Russia is our "savior" and that it's an unbreakable marriage or something is being a little naive. This is politics, countries do what's best for them even if it means betraying or selling an ally.
    I am happy Armenia is a vassal to Russia, we should try to take maximum advantage of this, as one day in internal chaos this could stop indeed. An example is the construction of a new nuclear power plant, even if Russia does not support us in the future, they can not ''cut'' and ''paste'' the power plant in another country, no it will remain a valuable Armenian asset because of the times we had a ''good'' relationship with the Russian Federation.

    Long live the Russian Federation, which compared to Western countries, is a big ally.

    P.S. Instead of your stupid avatar with the European Union Slavery Pact flag on it, better put one where our beloved Artsakh is also included. Not even talking about your preferences to put 100% anti-Dashnak, instead of 100% anti-Aliyev or whatsoever. People like you are in essence our current day enemies. Not only we have to fight with the baboons, but also take care for the destructive mentality of your kind.
    Last edited by Tigranakert; 11-10-2010, 10:34 AM.

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