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  • Tigranakert
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    Re: Exposing ArmeniaNow, biased Western-backed political anti-Armenian media outlets.

    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    In 2008, ArmeniaNow was the only media outlet in Armenia to oppose the media restrictions imposed after Sarkisian declared his State of Emergency. Sarkissian had essentially closed down every media outlet by requiring that they publish only official press releases and nothing else. I recall that ArmenaNow left its pages blank rather than comply, as well as releasing a strongly worded condemnation of the restrictions. Since that time, because it had dared to oppose those in power, ArmeniaNow has been earmarked for destruction by the Armenian establishment. This is the reason behind this tigranakert hatefest.
    Utterly false, claiming to be an independent media source, ArmeniaNow actively supported the corrupt, anti-Armenian criminal in the name of Levon Ter Petrosyan, and actively promoted people to participate in the overthrow of the government. This in itself is reason enough to throw them into jail and ban it, but our government was kind enough not to resort to these measures, which would otherwise have happened in every Western country in the world, especially in America.

    You also make a good point, in every other country in the world when State Emergency is declared (Armenia was in a very dangerous situation as the West was supporting a criminal like Levon Ter Petrosyan and Azerbaijan saw chances of regaining Artsakh, but you ofcourse don't care), you have to follow the law. But ArmeniaNow just didn't respect the emergency, as they were one of the leaders in promoting a coup of criminals.

    Can you imagine, a media outlet claiming to be independent, SUPPORTING Levon Ter Petrosyan, and not just a normal person, but a criminal who is responsible for dozens of killings, tortures, undemocratic policies and the one who basically sold our country?

    This is a very good example of Western hypocrisy, and bell-the-cat points it out very well. Again, I want to thank you for showing how you can distort facts. The West used religion for their imperialistic policies, now they use "democracy", but don't dare to talk about democracy in their own countries (America, Italy), it's a one-way-street because they are allowed to do anything, ban anything, and still criticize other countries.
    Last edited by Tigranakert; 03-15-2011, 08:54 AM.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Re: Exposing ArmeniaNow, biased Western-backed political anti-Armenian media outlets.

    Originally posted by Siggie View Post
    What's Hughes saying and is he saying it through ArmeniaNow as a mouthpiece or his own mouth?
    In 2008, ArmeniaNow was the only media outlet in Armenia to oppose the media restrictions imposed after Sarkisian declared his State of Emergency. Sarkissian had essentially closed down every media outlet by requiring that they publish only official press releases and nothing else. I recall that ArmenaNow left its pages blank rather than comply, as well as releasing a strongly worded condemnation of the restrictions. Since that time, because it had dared to oppose those in power, ArmeniaNow has been earmarked for destruction by the Armenian establishment. This is the reason behind this tigranakert hatefest.

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  • Siggie
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    Re: Exposing ArmeniaNow, biased Western-backed political anti-Armenian media outlets.

    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
    Worry about Scotland, and your own neck of the woods. The last thing we need is for you to be giving advice and lectures on how Armenians should think and act.
    That's not helpful. Just because someone's not from Armenia, they can't offer an opinion? Perhaps this "us against the world" is partly attributable to our own automatic distrust and scorn for all odars.

    Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
    This topic serves as a counter-balance in an increasingly hostile environment Armenia faces. We Armenians should clearly understand the anti-Armenian attitudes of some media outlets, or at least the political goals which they strive to obtain, which are not always for the best of our country.

    Especially with entities like Radio Free Liberty (Eurasianet), which is purely made to manipulate people (as if it's independent) to the benefit of the foreign policy of the United States of America. This is not the case with Russia Today, as it doesn't advocate itself as in "independent" media outlet, trying to bring "democracy" and "freedom" to other countries. This is the main and biggest difference.

    Another good example is this biased article, on Iran and Azerbaijan, where they never mention the anti-Iranian policy of Azerbaijan and their claims of Northern-Iran. In fact, these media are the supporters of most of our enemies and the attackers of most of our allies, which make it double as dangerous. It's by reading the media possesed by the United States of America and other Western entities, you understand and learn about their foreign policy and their future goals. You come to the conclusion that if they succeed, this will be very dangerous for the Republic of Armenia.



    @Armanan,
    No need to discuss with Stevie Simply, we all know who he is and what he stands for.

    Also note how ArmeniaNow calls our current government a "regime" and mentions our president often as "Serzh", instead of Mr. Sargsyan.
    Thanks, but I think this was more of a series of conclusions about the sources with fragments of an explanation here and there rather than explanations. :-/

    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    In the eyes of tigranakert and mos and armanen, one disagreement is one too many. They require absolute agreement, no divergence however small, however correctly held, however well explained.
    I hope that's not the case because to the extent that we want to inform and educate people, we need to exhibit more patience.

    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
    You like to project. None of us require absolute agreement. There are divergencies which you fail (willingly to see), and you are the last person to speak about explanations as your style is to belittle, rant, and talk down to others.
    Let's not bicker still...

    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
    John Hughes, who runs ArmeniaNow, is an agent of influence. Just wanted to add that on top of what Tigranakert already wrote.
    What's Hughes saying and is he saying it through ArmeniaNow as a mouthpiece or his own mouth?

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  • Armanen
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    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    In the eyes of tigranakert and mos and armanen, one disagreement is one too many. They require absolute agreement, no divergence however small, however correctly held, however well explained.

    You like to project. None of us require absolute agreement. There are divergencies which you fail (willingly to see), and you are the last person to speak about explanations as your style is to belittle, rant, and talk down to others.

    Originally posted by Siggie View Post
    I can't sort out what overwhelming evidence of bias could have you all so upset. Is this an instance of condemning the whole media outlet out of disagreement with one or two pieces?

    Can someone articulate the cause for concern more clearly please?
    John Hughes, who runs ArmeniaNow, is an agent of influence. Just wanted to add that on top of what Tigranakert already wrote.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Re: Exposing ArmeniaNow, biased Western-backed political anti-Armenian media outlets.

    Originally posted by Siggie View Post
    I can't sort out what overwhelming evidence of bias could have you all so upset. Is this an instance of condemning the whole media outlet out of disagreement with one or two pieces?

    Can someone articulate the cause for concern more clearly please?
    In the eyes of tigranakert and mos and armanen, one disagreement is one too many. They require absolute agreement, no divergence however small, however correctly held, however well explained.

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  • Tigranakert
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    Re: Exposing ArmeniaNow, biased Western-backed political anti-Armenian media outlets.

    This topic serves as a counter-balance in an increasingly hostile environment Armenia faces. We Armenians should clearly understand the anti-Armenian attitudes of some media outlets, or at least the political goals which they strive to obtain, which are not always for the best of our country.

    Especially with entities like Radio Free Liberty (Eurasianet), which is purely made to manipulate people (as if it's independent) to the benefit of the foreign policy of the United States of America. This is not the case with Russia Today, as it doesn't advocate itself as in "independent" media outlet, trying to bring "democracy" and "freedom" to other countries. This is the main and biggest difference.

    Another good example is this biased article, on Iran and Azerbaijan, where they never mention the anti-Iranian policy of Azerbaijan and their claims of Northern-Iran. In fact, these media are the supporters of most of our enemies and the attackers of most of our allies, which make it double as dangerous. It's by reading the media possesed by the United States of America and other Western entities, you understand and learn about their foreign policy and their future goals. Most of their foreign policy and goals are clearly very dangerous for Armenia and the future of our Republic.



    @Armanan,
    No need to discuss with Stevie Simply, we all know who he is and what he stands for.

    Also note how ArmeniaNow calls our current government a "regime" and mentions our president often as "Serzh", instead of Mr. Sargsyan.
    Last edited by Tigranakert; 03-15-2011, 07:12 AM.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Re: Exposing ArmeniaNow, biased Western-backed political anti-Armenian media outlets.

    Originally posted by Armanen View Post
    Worry about Scotland, and your own neck of the woods. The last thing we need is for you to be giving advice and lectures on how Armenians should think and act.
    You, and all Armenians like you, go endlessly on and on whingeing about how the world owes Armenia a living, about how unfairly Armenia has been treated by everyone, about how Armenia is so important andwonderful that everyone should know and care about its problems and solve them, while at the same time you throw your scorn and contempt over everyone in that world. Just go live under a rock, and complain silently to yourself about its weight.

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  • Siggie
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    Re: Exposing ArmeniaNow, biased Western-backed political anti-Armenian media outlets.

    I can't sort out what overwhelming evidence of bias could have you all so upset. Is this an instance of condemning the whole media outlet out of disagreement with one or two pieces?

    Can someone articulate the cause for concern more clearly please?

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  • Armanen
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    Re: Exposing ArmeniaNow, biased Western-backed political anti-Armenian media outlets.

    Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
    It is because of people like you and Mos that Armenia is disregarded. Not just on this subject (the vile cheek of you, attacking the only credible media left in Armenia) but on everything you touch. Actually, that is giving you too much credit. Those most deserving of blame are the cowards who allow the likes of you a platform to shout out your empty-headed thoughts. In a normal society, pathetic sorts like you wouldn't be given the time of the day. Armenia will get the future it deserves, a future the cowards have enabled.

    Worry about Scotland, and your own neck of the woods. The last thing we need is for you to be giving advice and lectures on how Armenians should think and act.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Re: Exposing ArmeniaNow, biased Western-backed political anti-Armenian media outlets.

    Originally posted by Tigranakert View Post
    Biased European Stochholm Peace Institute

    Is there one organization in Europe which is unbiased?
    It is because of people like you and Mos that Armenia is disregarded. Not just on this subject (the vile cheek of you, attacking the only credible media left in Armenia) but on everything you touch. Actually, that is giving you too much credit. Those most deserving of blame are the cowards who allow the likes of you a platform to shout out your empty-headed thoughts. In a normal society, pathetic sorts like you wouldn't be given the time of the day. Armenia will get the future it deserves, a future the cowards have enabled.
    Last edited by bell-the-cat; 03-15-2011, 06:38 AM.

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