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  • Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

    Originally posted by Vahram View Post
    What I don't understand about the West and Isreal is that Bashar is the best guy on the block! Why are they so hell bent on bringing crazy people to power? I have been trying real hard to figure this one out and it escapes me as to what sense it makes if any.

    Bashar smacked the Palastinian uprising, what Je w does not like that? It just does not make sense I'm telling you the people at the top in the West are smoking some crazy sheet! They must have a consulate in Jamaica because these boys and gals are smoking some crazy sheet.
    Hello Vahram

    I agree with you about Syria and personally I don't like whats been going on there at all. The entire Middle East is now a basically a tinder box and those Sunni bandits marauding around Syria are very likely intent on provoking a wider regional war with the Shia.

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      Provocing a war between the Shia and the Sunnis is the whole point of the arab uprising and the slaughter of dictators who held back the islamists. This is all planned and very consistant with Israeli and western strategy. The hryas and their western friends will start wars through false flag operations and sit back and watch the sunnis and shias slaugher each other just like they did in Iraq. These wars will further weaken the region and leave Israel in a stronger position. The USA is a declining empire so the hria will use its last resources to destroy as many powers in the middle east that it can untill USA runs out of strength in the region. The rising power is China and much will depend on what it chooses to do. As always Armenia is caught up in the middle of all this simply because of its location.
      Hayastan or Bust.

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      • Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

        Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
        Provocing a war between the Shia and the Sunnis is the whole point of the arab uprising and the slaughter of dictators who held back the islamists. This is all planned and very consistant with Israeli and western strategy. The hryas and their western friends will start wars through false flag operations and sit back and watch the sunnis and shias slaugher each other just like they did in Iraq. These wars will further weaken the region and leave Israel in a stronger position. The USA is a declining empire so the hria will use its last resources to destroy as many powers in the middle east that it can untill USA runs out of strength in the region. The rising power is China and much will depend on what it chooses to do. As always Armenia is caught up in the middle of all this simply because of its location.
        Oriental Christians have long been stuck between a rock and a hard place. However the culture and tribal nature of the Middle East is large part of the problem. The Sunnis view the Shia as apostates and the West is hardly responsible for the Shia/Sunni divide. The Sunnis are looking to assert themselves, presumable with a view of clearing the Shia from the region and "liberating" Iraq. The Turk also has little interest in a hostile, Shia controlled, Syria-Iraq Arab energy corridor reaching the Mediterranean or any Russian/Iranian Naval presence in the region.

        The xxxs are in a difficult situation and I think that they are worried. The US is in a very bad state and it's demographics are such now that it's slowly turning into a xxxxhole like Brazil. While Europe has been invaded by monkeys from South Asia and Africa.

        China is a very hostile and aggressive nation and it's influence is globally now. The SE Asians are very worried about them and China will expand into Central Asia. Russia's policy of appeasement towards China is a mistake. As the Russians aren't any kind of counter to China.

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        • Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

          Whatever the differences between the sunni and shia may be they were controlled one way or another by the dictators who for the most part were set in power by the west. These differences could have been dealt with long ago had the west allowed proper reforms to take place in the middleeast but loyalty to the west was much more important then any reform. Whichever way you want to slice or dice this its all the fault of the west. China runs the best policies both domestic and foreign out of any nation and it deserves to be the super power it is becoming because unlike the USA - China does what is right for its country and interests-try being a special interest group in China lol. Chinas growth is fueled by Russian natural resources thus Russia benefits greatly from Chinese growth. The chinese philosophy of government has its roots in very old text called the Art of War by Sun Tzu and the buddist tradition which at times contradict each other. What i like about China's culture of government is the emphasis on the importance of the state and its interests above all else. In a culture like this special interest will be killed immediately and the good of the state will always win out. The reason the USA is declining is not demographic - the decline is a result of special interest hijacking the government and making it do what is in their best interest instead of the nations. The situation in USA is far beyond hope with needed reform rendered completely impossible in the present political system. We are witnessing the decline of an empire and the rise of another.
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          Originally posted by retro View Post
          Oriental Christians have long been stuck between a rock and a hard place. However the culture and tribal nature of the Middle East is large part of the problem. The Sunnis view the Shia as apostates and the West is hardly responsible for the Shia/Sunni divide. The Sunnis are looking to assert themselves, presumable with a view of clearing the Shia from the region and "liberating" Iraq. The Turk also has little interest in a hostile, Shia controlled, Syria-Iraq Arab energy corridor reaching the Mediterranean or any Russian/Iranian Naval presence in the region.

          The xxxs are in a difficult situation and I think that they are worried. The US is in a very bad state and it's demographics are such now that it's slowly turning into a xxxxhole like Brazil. While Europe has been invaded by monkeys from South Asia and Africa.

          China is a very hostile and aggressive nation and it's influence is globally now. The SE Asians are very worried about them and China will expand into Central Asia. Russia's policy of appeasement towards China is a mistake. As the Russians aren't any kind of counter to China.
          Hayastan or Bust.

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          • Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

            Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
            Whatever the differences between the sunni and shia may be they were controlled one way or another by the dictators who for the most part were set in power by the west. These differences could have been dealt with long ago had the west allowed proper reforms to take place in the middleeast but loyalty to the west was much more important then any reform. Whichever way you want to slice or dice this its all the fault of the west. China runs the best policies both domestic and foreign out of any nation and it deserves to be the super power it is becoming because unlike the USA - China does what is right for its country and interests-try being a special interest group in China lol. Chinas growth is fueled by Russian natural resources thus Russia benefits greatly from Chinese growth. The chinese philosophy of government has its roots in very old text called the Art of War by Sun Tzu and the buddist tradition which at times contradict each other. What i like about China's culture of government is the emphasis on the importance of the state and its interests above all else. In a culture like this special interest will be killed immediately and the good of the state will always win out. The reason the USA is declining is not demographic - the decline is a result of special interest hijacking the government and making it do what is in their best interest instead of the nations. The situation in USA is far beyond hope with needed reform rendered completely impossible in the present political system. We are witnessing the decline of an empire and the rise of another.
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            All corruption can be reduced to "special interest" groups doing what's best for them instead of the country at large. China is no exception. China is as corrupt and self serving to its precious few as all the rest.
            Definitely not a country to follow or emulate .
            The Chinese motivation like the Persian motivation like the Russian, American, British etc. is not about doing the right thing for this old world and has nothing to do with being honest, forthright, or decent.

            Oh yeah, china my leader
            ArtashesInability
            Hey slick , the above word "inability " following my name is not a computer generated follow word . Take a jar of midol and get over your cramps batch

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            • Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

              Bxtch not batch

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              • Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

                Guys good reading on what the West is doing, but I still don't get it. Hear is why, after all is said and done, what ever power takes over is going to be anti West period. By keeping it fractured the West stands to gain more in the long run. This short run of mixing things up may be correct thinking but does not make sense for the long timeframe.

                The attack on the consulates is just a fine example of the West losing control. What ever happens this is only going to get hotter.

                We are going to be in the mix of things again.

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                • Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

                  Originally posted by Vahram View Post
                  The attack on the consulates is just a fine example of the West losing control. What ever happens this is only going to get hotter.
                  While that attack on the US consulate in Libya was orchestrated and a terrorist act is not necessarily indicative of wider anti-western sentiment. That crowd in North Africa are very tribal they have always been a wild bunch.

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                  • Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

                    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                    Whatever the differences between the sunni and shia may be they were controlled one way or another by the dictators who for the most part were set in power by the west. These differences could have been dealt with long ago had the west allowed proper reforms to take place in the middleeast but loyalty to the west was much more important then any reform. Whichever way you want to slice or dice this its all the fault of the west.
                    The West is not responsible for other peoples bilateral relations and you are not being reasonable.

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                    • Re: Bashar al-Assad, Syria and the Armenian people

                      By stating that The USA has exasperated the situation in the middle east by mismanaging it is being unreasonable? You sound like a republican presidential candidate. Decades of forced dictatorship on the people of the middle east whose aim was to keep the west happy and get as fat as possible doing it had no effecton these people? The USA/Isreal killed off all progressive minded reformers in Arab countries to make sure all they have is a sick regime like Saudi Arabia. Being born a Arab or Muslim doesnt mean being stupid or incapable - these people wanted to and tried to do the right things but time and again the western powers denied them the freedom to do it to make sure they stay subjegated and obedient to western demands. Kadafi is a good example - he kept islamists under control, he managed his country well, he founded and supported the African Union but you see this kind of progress is exactly what the western powers don't want to see because it has less control over them then the reliable dictator who stays inline and does what heis told. There were plenty of chances for the west to do the right thing but it always chose the xxxxiest possible thing to do and so now here we are.
                      Hayastan or Bust.

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