Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

What do you have to offer Armenia? As I see it, hostility towards two of our main allies as starters and claims on Armenian land. We don't need more Western puppets in the region we already have more than enough. You would be a puppet, American support doesn't come without a price. Azerbaijan is also a small country compared to some countries so following your logic we should support them?

You made the claim you should prove it. It's like if I said that pigs could fly I should be the one that should prove it and it wouldn't be up too you t disprove it.

Wouldn't a puppet agree to anything their master says?

Talabani to Obama: Drop Dead

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, one of America's closest allies in the country, has rebuffed the personal request of President Obama and Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. to relinquish his post as Iraqis form a new government in Baghdad.

http://www.ekurd.net/mismas/articles/misc2010/11/govt1764.htm

The yanks need our political assistance in the central government to counter the Shia Arab radicals, so it's a mutual interest.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

The Yezidis self-identify themselves as such and actively ask the Armenian people to not think of them as Kurds. Read this http://www.armenianow.com/news/21560...entity_dispute

Like I told you there are 500,000–700,000 world wide and only 40,000 in Armenia, the yezidis are a very religion orientated people, however their Emir and Prince has declared his stance on the issue and has reaffirmed his kurdishness.

Dohuk, Nov. 9 (AKnews) – Yezidi Emir, Tahsin Saeid Bek has said that there will be no compromise on the Kurdish origins of the religious minority and has praised the Kurdistan Regional Government for officially recognizing Yezidi religious holidays. (http://www.aknews.com/en/aknews/1/194338/).

We are aware of the Armenian governments plan for the Yezidis in their country, and Yezidis has asked the Kurdish government for help in terms of financial assistance, as according to the Kurds that are in Armenia that is not provided by your government to them! kind of a slap in the face for all the churches our government founded for Christians in Kurdistan.

[Federate]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

The Yezidis self-identify themselves as such and actively ask the Armenian people to not think of them as Kurds. Read this http://www.armenianow.com/news/21560...entity_dispute

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Don't be a hypocrite, we both know small nations need the help of other bigger nations to survive, after all without the ruskies you would have been wiped off by now.

Also, if you have any scientific claims that Yezidis are not Kurds, please enlighten me! there are only 40,000 yezidis in Armenia, however there are 500,000 in Southern Kurdistan and just becuase a couple yezidis are being brain washed it does not mean anything.

Like I said, Yezidi sacred books are written in Kurdish.

P.S: We're no 'puppet' of the US, we do however have mutual interest, for example the US told Kurdish leaders not to take the Iraqi presidency however becuase it's in our interest to take the post we still did.

What do you have to offer Armenia? As I see it, hostility towards two of our main allies as starters and claims on Armenian land. We don't need more Western puppets in the region we already have more than enough. You would be a puppet, American support doesn't come without a price. Azerbaijan is also a small country compared to some countries so following your logic we should support them?

You made the claim you should prove it. It's like if I said that pigs could fly I should be the one that should prove it and it wouldn't be up too you t disprove it.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Don't be a hypocrite, we both know small nations need the help of other bigger nations to survive, after all without the ruskies you would have been wiped off by now.

Also, if you have any scientific claims that Yezidis are not Kurds, please enlighten me! there are only 40,000 yezidis in Armenia, however there are 500,000 in Southern Kurdistan and just becuase a couple yezidis are being brain washed it does not mean anything.

Like I said, Yezidi sacred books are written in Kurdish.

P.S: We're no 'puppet' of the US, we do however have mutual interest, for example the US told Kurdish leaders not to take the Iraqi presidency however becuase it's in our interest to take the post we still did.

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

To be honest I'm with Bell on this one, there are two reasons for that.

One, I like the Yezidis, they are very loyal to the Armenian state, even more loyal than some Armenians. Also their culture and the way they speak Armenian. So I don't like the BS that is being spread around here.
Secondly, an independent Kurdistan will be an puppet of the West(the US), and will be against Armenians interests. The only reason why would want an independent Kurdistan is too piss off Turkey, I can't see any other reason. Add to everything the claims they are making on Western-Armenia.

What would Armenia gain by supporting the creation of yet an other Western puppet that will be hostile against many of our allies aka Russia and Iran.

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Hey genius what are the Yezid then? if their not kurds, why do they speak Kurdish? why are their religious books written in Kurdish? Zaza are Kurdish as they are a group similar to Gorani and Hawrami Kurdish dialects where as Kurmanji is similar to Sorani dialect, and sorani people are just Gorani people influenced by Kurmanji people.

Why don't you go the whole hog and claim Armenians are Kurds, Azeris are Kurds, Turks are Kurds? You claim the Yezidi are not an ethnicity, but a sect. But Kurds are not an ethnicity, they are a lifestyle: tribal nomads who lived and expanded parasitically by plundering their neighbours.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Why? Because it goes against your ethnic ideology? There are few national histories as full of myths and lies as Kurdish historiography - it is worse even than that of Azerbaijan. At least the Azeris aren't saying that all Armenians are actually ethnic Azeris, unlike Kurdish racist ideology that denies the Yezidi the right to exist. Kurds may be able to con ignorant journalists and European politicians into believing Kurdish lies, but any experts on the region's history, and ALL Yezidi, know that the Yezidi are NOT Kurds. And neither are the Dersimli, or most of the Zaza, all of which denies to Kurdish expansionism the right to claim large areas of Turkey as "Kurdistan". And of course almost all of the rest of "Kurdistan" in Turkey was originally Armenia.

Hey genius what are the Yezid then? if their not kurds, why do they speak Kurdish? why are their religious books written in Kurdish? Zaza are Kurdish as they are a group similar to Gorani and Hawrami Kurdish dialects where as Kurmanji is similar to Sorani dialect, and sorani people are just Gorani people influenced by Kurmanji people.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Keep us updated on anything new my friend. Also, what is your view of the PKK that they will unleash war against Turkey after the elections if certain demands are not met? Immediately after that statement a few Turkish soldiers and policement were targeted and killed. It seems like it's cooled down. What do you expect after the elections in Turkey?

I don't know much about Turkish politics, I suspect the AKP will win though.

[kurdman]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Yezdis also took part in the Karabakh war. Today, there are even a few Yezidis that serve on the front-lines with Azerbaijan. Yezidis have their rights in Armenia and are free to practice their customs. There is no issue we have with the Yezidis.

Yezidi is not an ethnicity, it's a sect... in Armenia people promote Yezidi nationalism and try to create divisions between Kurds in Armenia. How many MPs do they have in your government? we give Armenians in South Kurdistan one reserved seat in parliament even if no one votes for the MP, and 5 seats to Assyrians/Chaldeans.