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  • Re: Regional geopolitics

    Originally posted by Hakob View Post
    Before genocide there were regiments of Armenian volunteers fighting against Turks in Russian, Bulgarian, Greek, Rumanian armies as well as thousands of guerrillas, known as fedayeen in mountains of western Armenia. Our national hero, general Andranik, got his general rank in Bulgarian army, where he rose from rank of commanding Armenian regiment to commanding Bulgarian army regiments as we'll and brought several victories. He is awarded a status of Bulgarian national hero. Western observers were and are as stupid as Azeri sheep(our sheep are much smarter). What they failed, or chose not to see was the ottoman laws of that time that forbade any Christian to ride a horse In Eastern turkey. Any Christian owning a weapon was put to jail. Christian in those areas meant Armenians. In Turkish courts testimony and any claims of any Armenian was deemed invalid by law. I would not want to offend anyone, but anybody believing those idiocies by westerners is as stupid as they. In 1918 the Armenian volunteer of, I think, 3-4000 genocide survivors brigade fighting in British army, decimated the Turkish army of over 22000, in battle of Nablus Palestine. This heroic history Brits will never recognize in order not to upset their Turkish buddies will they?
    I'm glad to come back and see smart people keeping things in proper perspective. Andranik's forces have, according to his own memoirs, reached the 5000 mark. "200 fedayee" is patently ridiculous.

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    • Re: Regional geopolitics

      But it was the Russians not Armenians is their answer as you know Hakob......one advantage we have over them is their weakness from their racist existence and delusions that they are superior.
      B0zkurt Hunter

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      • Re: Regional geopolitics

        Originally posted by lampron View Post
        what about before genocide?

        Foreign visitors to Armenian lands (British, French, Russian) in the 19th century (and before), observed that Armenians were not a fighting race

        They said Armenians were good traders in the bazaar

        In the 18th century famous Iranian-Indian Armenian Joseph Emin travelled through Anatolia and Caucasus and found most Armenian churchmen and merchants not interested in rebellion or independence

        Before genocide maybe 200 Armenian guerillas out of Ottoman Armenian population of 2 million
        The version that is spread by Ronald Suny about the expedition of Joseph Emin is a complete lie. The journal entry of Emin riding into the village and being at first attacked by the villagers upon greeting them in Armenian is true. The part of the interview with the Kahana at the village about "the destiny of ARmenian being determined to be in the hands of the Ottomans by divine mandate" is also true, but only half the story!

        The continuation of the journal shows that the Kahana was merely taking precautions until such a time it is determined that Emin is in fact who he says he is, and is not in fact some Ottoman impostor. The first author to catch this lie by Suny is Armen Ayvazyan. He published the entire episode of Emin and that village in his book entitled The History of Armenia as Presented in American Historiography: A Critical Survey. 1998

        Here is the full text in the Sovorakan/Sylfaen (unicode) font http://www.artsakhworld.com/Armen_Ai...Index_Eng.html

        Suny's anti-Armenian rantings are completely exposed by Aryvazyan in that book. I highly suggest you read it. Remember that Suny has proudly proclaimed that he is, and I quote, "an anti-nationalist."

        Ironically, quite the opposite of how Suny presents it, Emin's journals reveal that the ARmenian rural populations as well were very nationalistic and prepared to join David Beg's campaign to liberate the entirety of ARmenia.
        Last edited by hagopn; 02-01-2014, 06:21 PM.

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        • Re: Regional geopolitics

          Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
          But it was the Russians not Armenians is their answer as you know Hakob......one advantage we have over them is their weakness from their racist existence and delusions that they are superior.
          I love your signature, Eddo, absolutely, and I agree that it is better to be underestimated.

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          • Re: Regional geopolitics

            Good to see you post hagopn...
            B0zkurt Hunter

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            • Re: Regional geopolitics

              Thank you, my friend. I'm glad to be back. There are some truly good people on this forum.

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              • Re: Regional geopolitics

                Originally posted by Hakob View Post
                Before genocide there were regiments of Armenian volunteers fighting against Turks in Russian, Bulgarian, Greek, Rumanian armies as well as thousands of guerrillas, known as fedayeen in mountains of western Armenia. Our national hero, general Andranik, got his general rank in Bulgarian army, where he rose from rank of commanding Armenian regiment to commanding Bulgarian army regiments as we'll and brought several victories. He is awarded a status of Bulgarian national hero. Western observers were and are as stupid as Azeri sheep(our sheep are much smarter). What they failed, or chose not to see was the ottoman laws of that time that forbade any Christian to ride a horse In Eastern turkey. Any Christian owning a weapon was put to jail. Christian in those areas meant Armenians. In Turkish courts testimony and any claims of any Armenian was deemed invalid by law. I would not want to offend anyone, but anybody believing those idiocies by westerners is very naive. In 1918 the Armenian volunteer of, I think, 3-4000 genocide survivors brigade fighting in British army, decimated the Turkish army of over 22000, in battle of Nablus Palestine. This heroic history Brits will never recognize in order not to upset their Turkish buddies will they?
                the inspiration to fight mostly came from foreigners - Russians, British, French. Only exceptionally from Armenian leaders. Are Italians inspired by a foreign power? No! Are Iranians? No!

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                • Re: Regional geopolitics

                  Originally posted by lampron View Post
                  the inspiration to fight mostly came from foreigners - Russians, British, French. Only exceptionally from Armenian leaders. Are Italians inspired by a foreign power? No! Are Iranians? No!
                  Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                  Son of the cat, you keep coming up with some stupid statements ever.

                  No doubt due to your ignorance of Armenian history or the Armenian revolutionary movement of the time.

                  .
                  Well said
                  Artashes
                  HARK

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                  • Re: Regional geopolitics

                    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                    Son of the cat, you keep coming up with some stupid statements ever.

                    No doubt due to your ignorance of Armenian history or the Armenian revolutionary movement of the time.

                    .
                    what Armenian revolutionary movement, you muppet? seizing Bank ottoman and being escorted out of Istanbul by foreign powers while thousands of defenceless people get massacred in revenge?

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                    • Re: Regional geopolitics

                      Originally posted by lampron View Post
                      what Armenian revolutionary movement, you muppet? seizing Bank ottoman and being escorted out of Istanbul by foreign powers while thousands of defenceless people get massacred in revenge?
                      Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                      Son of the cat, you keep coming up with some stupid statements ever.

                      No doubt due to your ignorance of Armenian history or the Armenian revolutionary movement of the time.

                      .
                      Son of a cat.
                      HARK

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