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  • Re: Regional geopolitics

    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    Eesh dues!
    Rusakan MELS, i zur ess abatzutzum btutyanet tchapse.
    Arten barzitz el barz a, intch mart ess.

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    • Re: Regional geopolitics

      Kazakhstan: Astana Entices Kazakhs From Abroad Amid Ukraine Crisis
      July 14, 2014 , by Joanna Lillis



      Kazakhstan hopes to drive external and internal migration into its Russian border regions, including the Caspian. (Photo: David Trilling)
      Kazakhstan’s western Caspian Sea coast is one of seven regions in the country chosen for settlement of Kazakhs migrating from abroad. The migration initiative includes a fast-track one-year citizenship process. (Photo: David Trilling)

      Astana is rebooting a program to lure ethnic Kazakhs living abroad to move to Kazakhstan. Observers believe Astana’s revived interest in the program is motivated by a desire to limit Russia’s potential to meddle in Kazakhstani affairs.

      Two years ago, the government suspended the “oralman” (returnee) program in the aftermath of fatal unrest in western Kazakhstan. The tumult was attributed in part to social discontent stemming from the mismanaged migration of Kazakhs from abroad.

      The oralman program, in its original form, provided generous social and economic benefits to entice Kazakhs abroad to migrate to their titular homeland. Now, under new terms announced in April, perks to attract ethnic Kazakhs abroad are back on the table in the form of paid travel and subsidized housing: but to be eligible for the benefits, migrants are required to settle in government-selected areas.

      Of the seven target regions, six are in northern Kazakhstan, situated along its long border with Russia, and which have sizeable ethnic Russian populations: Akmola; East Kazakhstan; Kostanay; North Kazakhstan: Pavlodar; and West Kazakhstan The seventh target area is the oil-and-gas hub of Atyrau on the Caspian Sea.

      Astana says the migration measures (which also include a fast-track one-year citizenship process) have nothing to do with the country’s demographics and everything to do with economics: Kazakhstan’s northern agricultural and industrial heartlands face looming labor shortages owing to their shrinking, ageing populations.

      The government contends that unless it acts to stimulate migration, the northern population will shrink by nearly a million by 2050. Astana is also offering incentives for internal migration northward to citizens, irrespective of ethnicity.

      Economic imperatives notwithstanding, Astana clearly has a worried eye on Kazakhstan’s demographic balance in view of recent developments in Ukraine, where the Kremlin’s annexation of Crimea and the emergence of armed separatist movements in the Donbass have alarmed the administration of President Nursultan Nazarbayev.

      Kazakhstan is one of Russia’s closest allies and a fellow member in the fledgling Eurasian Economic Union, the cornerstone of Vladimir Putin’s dream of drawing former Soviet states back into Moscow’s orbit. Even so, many Kazakhstani officials are aware of worrying parallels with Ukraine that could create a headache for Astana were relations ever to sour.

      Like Ukraine, Kazakhstan has a long border with Russia (7,000 kilometers) – and a large ethnic Russian minority (21 percent of the overall Kazakhstani population of 17.2 million, most of whom live in the very same northern regions targeted under the new oralman migration program).

      “I think this [renewal of the oralman program] is linked to Ukraine,” Dos Kushim, leader of the Kazakh nationalist movement Fate of the Nation, told EurasiaNet.org: It is “a practical step” to address Astana’s “apprehensions” amid the Russo-Ukrainian crisis.

      The oralman program was launched two decades ago to address a demographic legacy inherited from the Soviet Union. At the time of the Soviet collapse in 1991, ethnic Kazakhs found themselves a minority group in their titular country, due to a variety of factors. For one, large numbers of Kazakhs fled abroad during Stalin’s collectivization drive, many of them settling in western China, Mongolia, Iran, and Turkey. In addition, Communist authorities encouraged the large-scale in-migration of Slavs and others who possessed the skills needed to drive various industrialization and agricultural schemes.

      Some 944,000 oralmans have migrated back to Kazakhstan over the last two decades, but there are still an estimated 3.5-4.5 million Kazakhs living abroad.

      The program has had its share of problems. Oralmans face adaptation challenges – particularly those coming from outside the former Soviet Union, who experience not only a culture shock, but also a language barrier. Two decades after independence, Russian remains Kazakhstan’s lingua franca and the language of public discourse: those who cannot speak Russian thus must grapple with everyday communication problems, and contend with disadvantages in the job market.

      “Language is the biggest problem,” Bekzat Dalilbek, who moved at age 18 from China to Kazakhstan a decade ago with her family, told EurasiaNet.org.

      She said she spoke no Russian on arrival, which presented such an obstacle that she paid for courses to learn it. Fluent in English and Mandarin as well as Kazakh and Russian, Dalilbek now works as a translator – yet she still wonders sometimes: “Why should I speak Russian in my own homeland?”

      Discrimination is another challenge. Internet chatrooms are full of oralmans lamenting popular perceptions of them as uneducated and welfare-dependent. “Why don’t people like oralmans in Kazakhstan?” asked one user recently, complaining in hurt tones of being “treated as second-class people.”

      Resentment of the welfare package oralmans receive, vastly inflated in the popular imagination, is widespread. People ask: “Why does the government give people from China and Mongolia so much money? Why don’t they give it to people from Kazakhstan to make their lives better?” explained Dalilbek.

      The benefits oralmans bring tend to be less emphasized, including their contribution to restoring “the [Kazakh] culture we forgot when Russification occurred,” suggests Kushim.

      The oralman scheme has also served the priorities of boosting the ethnic Kazakh population, which has risen from 40 percent at independence to 66 percent today, and in promoting the broader use of the Kazakh language; Astana aims to get 95 percent of citizens fluent by 2020, against around two-thirds currently.

      Oralmans have to date mainly settled in the more Kazakh-speaking south and west, but shifting the flow northward will foster Kazakhification in Russian-dominated regions.

      As promoting a sense of nationhood shoots up Astana’s agenda amid the troubles in Ukraine, this unspoken national security goal is perhaps at least as important as the economic imperatives.

      Editor's note: Joanna Lillis is a freelance writer who specializes in Central Asia.

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      PS: This is an open anti russian program.
      It would have been unthinkable a couple of years back.....
      The fact that Kazakhstan dares to launch such a plan, talks a lot about the weakening of the russian position......

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      • Re: Regional geopolitics

        Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
        EEEEEEESH NAHADAG


        This phenomena does not exist only with Armenians.
        Only reasoning I can attribute it to is brainwashing.

        A contradictory ""patriotic"" Scotsman declaring his feeling against being independent.
        Last edited by londontsi; 07-15-2014, 11:44 AM.
        Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
        Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
        Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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        • Re: Regional geopolitics

          Originally posted by londontsi View Post


          This phenomena does not exist only with Armenians.
          Only reasoning I can attribute it to is brainwashing.

          A contradictory ""patriotic"" Scotsman declaring his feeling against being independent.
          Exact.
          Slave mentality is the magic glue, that keeps Empires going since Rome....

          Was not Enver himself saved by Armenians in Sarighamish .....?

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          • Re: Regional geopolitics

            As you two pat each other on the back and consider yourselves superior Armenians because you are willing to do what everybody else is doing and jump on the hate Russia bandwagon, let me ask you this. If Russia gets kicked out of Armenia what will happen next?
            Hayastan or Bust.

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            • Re: Regional geopolitics

              Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
              As you two pat each other on the back and consider yourselves superior Armenians because you are willing to do what everybody else is doing and jump on the hate Russia bandwagon, let me ask you this. If Russia gets kicked out of Armenia what will happen next?
              I was not patting anybody on the back.
              I was only trying to soften the shame of an Armenian who was confused as which is his country and where his loyalty should be.


              The term superior Armenian is very much the language of Bell the CAT who would be over the moon about having brainwashed you.

              .
              Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
              Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
              Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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              • Re: Regional geopolitics

                Yeh yeh sure i am brainwashed but can any of you answer my damn question already? Its a simple straight forward damn question that non of the rusohaters ever had a single answer for. As for Bell the cat i disagree with much of what he says but yeh there are plenty of you superior Armenians around and that i agree with-i see them all the time patting themselves on the back as they hold yet another dinner, yet another ceremony, yet another banquet, yet another..while they do hardly anything at all to strengthen Armenia nor to make it a place worth living in....but xxxx all that just answer the simple question.
                Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                I was not patting anybody on the back.
                I was only trying to soften the shame of an Armenian who was confused as which is his country and where his loyalty should be.


                The term superior Armenian is very much the language of Bell the CAT who would be over the moon about having brainwashed you.

                .
                Hayastan or Bust.

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                • Re: Regional geopolitics

                  Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                  As you two pat each other on the back and consider yourselves superior Armenians because you are willing to do what everybody else is doing and jump on the hate Russia bandwagon, let me ask you this. If Russia gets kicked out of Armenia what will happen next?


                  Do you really think a JA like you deserves an answer ????

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                  • Re: Regional geopolitics

                    «Ստրատֆոր»․ «Ղարաբաղյան հակամարտության հիմքը Ստալինի որոշումն էր»
                    Խնդրի լուծման լավագույն պահը, ըստ հետազոտական կենտրոնի, հետխորհրդային վաղ շրջանն էր:

                    Խնդրի լուծման լավագույն պահը, ըստ հետազոտական կենտրոնի, հետխորհրդային վաղ շրջանն էր:

                    Հրապարակված է՝ 15.07.2014

                    Մինչ Ռուսաստանն ու Արևմուտքը շարունակում են իրենց հակամարտությունը Ուկրաինայի շուրջ, Կովկասում ևս ընթանում է ավելի նուրբ, սակայն հավանաբար ոչ պակաս նշանակալի մի մրցակցություն, գրում է «Ստրատֆոր» վերլուծական կենտրոնը Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի հակամարտության վերաբերյալ հոդվածում:

                    «Մինչ Վրաստանը փորձում է մերձենալ Արևմուտքին, իսկ Հայաստանը ամրացնում է կապերը Ռուսաստանի հետ, Ադրբեջանը փորձում է զգույշ հավասարակշռություն պահպանել երկու կողմերի միջև։ Ադրբեջանը, այսպիսով, Կովկասի առանցքային դիրքում է, և Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի հակամարտությունն այն կարևորագույն ասպեկտն է, որ ձևավորում է Բաքվի դերը», - մանրամասնում է «Ստրատֆոր»-ը:

                    Վերլուծական կենտրոնը ներկայացնում է համառոտ պատմական ակնարկ՝ ղարաբաղյան հակամարտության հիմքը տեսնելով Ստալինի որոշման մեջ: «Ադրկովկասյան Դաշնային Խորհրդային Հանրապետությունը 1923 թվականին վերակազմավորվեց երեք առանձին պետությունների՝ Վրաստանի, Հայաստանի և Ադրբեջանի։ Լեռնային Ղարաբաղը դրվեց Ադրբեջանի իրավասության տակ՝ այդ ժամանակ ազգությունների գործերով ժողովրդական կոմիսար Իոսիֆ Ստալինի կողմից։ Ահա սահմանների և տարածքների այս վերաձևումները, որոնք արվել էին տարածքային վեճեր ստեղծելու և այդ պետությունները մշտապես թույլ պահելու համար, գործի գցեցին ղարաբաղյան հակամարտությունը», - գրում է «Ստրատֆոր»-ը։

                    Չնայած անհաշիվ հանդիպումներին՝ վերջին 20 տարիների ընթացքում հակամարտության խաղաղ լուծման բանակցությունների անարդյունավետությունը վերլուծական կենտրոնը կապում է աշխարհաքաղաքական հիմնարար գործոնների հետ։ Առաջին և ամենագլխավոր գործոնը տարածաշրջանի ազդեցիկ խաղացողների մասնակցությունն ու ազդեցությունն է հակամարտության վրա։

                    «Ռուսաստանը, Թուրքիան և Իրանը մրցակցել են Կովկասում դարերով, և այդ մրցակցությունը դեռ շարունակվում է ու տեղ ունի մեր իրականության մեջ։ Այս երկրների մասնակցությունը, իրենց արմատացած և հաճախ մրցակցող ռազմավարական շահերով, հանդես է գալիս որպես Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի ձգձգվող հակամարտության կարևոր բաղադրիչ», - գրում է «Ստրատֆոր»-ը։

                    Խնդրի լուծման լավագույն պահը, ըստ կենտրոնի, հետխորհրդային վաղ շրջանում էր, երբ ԵԱՀԿ-ի Մինսկի խումբն առաջարկեց բանակցությունների ընդունելի շրջանակ, երբ Միացյալ Նահանգները ներգրավվեցին գործընթացում, Ռուսաստանն էլ դեռ թույլ էր, իսկ Մոսկվայի և Վաշինգտոնի միջև կապերը՝ համեմատաբար ջերմ։

                    «Չնայած Ռուսաստանի գերակա դերակատարությանը, ղարաբաղյան խաղաղ բանակցություններում Ռուսաստանի շահերից է բխում ստատուս քվոյի պահպանումը երկու երկրների միջև, սակայն դա չի նշանակում, որ ղարաբաղյան հակամարտության ներկայիս վիճակը հավետ կձգվի: Ինչպես ցույց է տալիս պատմությունը, Լեռնային Ղարաբաղը, որպես կանոն, բռնկվում է տարածաշրջանում խոշոր ցնցումների ժամանակ և հատկապես Ռուսաստանի թուլացման ժամանակաշրջանում։ Ահա այս պահը մտածելու տեղիք է տալիս, հատկապես երբ Ռուսաստանը կրկին լուրջ խնդիրներ ունի նախկին խորհրդային ծայրամասերի հետ, ինչպես երևաց Ուկրաինայի դեպքում», - գրում է «Ստրատֆոր»-ը։

                    Թեև, ըստ վերլուծական կենտրոնի, սա ամենևին չի նշանակում Ռուսաստանի անհապաղ կոլապս, այդուամենայնիվ, Ռուսաստանը լուրջ և երկարաժամկետ խնդիրներ ունի իր ազդեցիկ դերը նախկին խորհրդային տարածքում պահպանելու համար, և այն երկրներից մեկը, որ կարող է լուրջ խնդիրներ ստեղծել Ռուսատանի համար, Ադրբեջանն է, որը հանդես է գալիս որպես Եվրոպայի էներգիա մատակարարելու այլընտրանքային աղբյուր, բացի այդ, ընդլայնում է իր կապերը Թուրքիայի, Իսրայելի և հետևաբար նաև Միացյալ Նահանգների հետ։

                    «Սակայն որպեսզի Մոսկվան իրոք փոխի իր դիրքորոշումը Լեռնային Ղարաբաղի շուրջ, կա՛մ պետք է զգալիորեն թուլանա, կա՛մ Ադրբեջանը Մոսկվայի շահերի համար այնքան կենսական կարևորություն պետք է ձեռք բերի, որ Մոսկվան փոխի իր լոյալությունը և հակառակվի Հայաստանին, ինչը այս պահին քիչ հավանական հեռանկար է», - գրում է «Ստրատֆոր»-ը։

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                    • Re: Regional geopolitics

                      You never have any answers at all..NEVER!!! All you do is complain, xxxxx, and moan about how bad this is and how terrible that is but you have nothing to offer besides your negativity, pessimism, and hate. You serve no useful purpose all you do is copy and paste Lragir bs propaganda over and over again. This is perhaps the limitation of you intellectual capacity. Yes is do deserve an answer as do the Armenian people you keep inciting, but of course you never have any answers and you never will because your purpose is not to provide answers nor to fix anything but to simply instigate and divide.
                      Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
                      http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....l=1#post352006

                      Do you really think a JA like you deserves an answer ????
                      Hayastan or Bust.

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