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  • #211
    Re: Politics in Hayastan

    Originally posted by londontsi View Post
    I think this mother F....r is hoping to use his ties to Kremlin to grab power in Armenia. He has been tolerated in Russia because he comes out of his skin in kissing any powerful kremliner's ass, and now he thinks he can turn that "capital" into a power in Armenia.
    He is a total nobody. I don't think that Putin or anybody even takes him seriously. It's more like "yea, yea, you jerk". But if our people will be stupid enough in taking this guy seriously and not kick his ass, then of course, Moscow will be happy to have such an ass kisser as our leader. Why not? The fault will be our's if we do.
    This is where before talking about democracy, we have to learn the value about choosing the right people and supporting them with our lives.

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    • #212
      Re: Politics in Hayastan

      This is where before talking about democracy, we have to learn the value about choosing the right people and supporting them with our lives.[/QUOTE]

      Hmm who are the "right people" and where are they?
      Hayastan or Bust.

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      • #213
        Re: Politics in Hayastan

        Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
        This is where before talking about democracy, we have to learn the value about choosing the right people and supporting them with our lives.
        Hmm who are the "right people" and where are they?[/QUOTE]

        The right people would put the interests of all of the armenian people ahead of the interests of the state or the pockets/political power of the few.

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        • #214
          Re: Politics in Hayastan

          Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
          This is where before talking about democracy, we have to learn the value about choosing the right people and supporting them with our lives.
          Hmm who are the "right people" and where are they?[/QUOTE]

          There are right people there.
          In any case, blocking the way of people who are abviousely wrong is an achievement in itself.
          Also, the right people are born from people's collective consciousness. They are not many, maybe very fire. But they come at the right time.
          Soon or later our people is going to pave the way.

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          • #215
            Re: Politics in Hayastan

            The "right people" do not just come around guys. They are born out of a countries institutions and their families.
            Hayastan or Bust.

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            • #216
              Re: Politics in Hayastan

              The World's 10 Most Responsible Governments:
              Here are the top 10 nations in that regard, according to the World Justice Project’s parameters.
              1-Denmark
              2-Sweden
              3-Norway
              4-Finland
              5-Australia
              6-New Zealand
              7-The Netherlands
              8-Austria
              9-Germany
              10-Japan

              The World's 10 Most Responsible Governments
              http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/11/29/the-worlds-10-most-responsible-governments/
              Want a limited government that is held accountable to society? Here's where to live.


              These 10 countries have a parliamentary systems , so it is not a coincidence that the top 10 countries where the rule of law , and where the governments are fair and accountable are parliamentary systems.

              We are not going to become like Denmark or Finland but I believe we are on the right track.
              I once read that the Armenian government is trying to correct the relation with the EU (after the U-turn of 2013) by shifting to a parliamentary system.

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              • #217
                Re: Politics in Hayastan

                Originally posted by Zeytun View Post
                The World's 10 Most Responsible Governments:
                Here are the top 10 nations in that regard, according to the World Justice Project’s parameters.
                1-Denmark
                2-Sweden
                3-Norway
                4-Finland
                5-Australia
                6-New Zealand
                7-The Netherlands
                8-Austria
                9-Germany
                10-Japan

                The World's 10 Most Responsible Governments
                http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/11/29/the-worlds-10-most-responsible-governments/
                Want a limited government that is held accountable to society? Here's where to live.


                These 10 countries have a parliamentary systems , so it is not a coincidence that the top 10 countries where the rule of law , and where the governments are fair and accountable are parliamentary systems.

                We are not going to become like Denmark or Finland but I believe we are on the right track.
                I once read that the Armenian government is trying to correct the relation with the EU (after the U-turn of 2013) by shifting to a parliamentary system.

                The problem has always been the non application of the constitution and the law.

                If the culture of believing by some that the law does not apply to them exists having a different constitution will not help matters.

                Also the fight against corruption, it cannot be won if as now it is fought bottom up.

                The fight against corruption should be top down.

                Unfortunately the powers to be have always found ways of resisting it.

                .
                Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                • #218
                  Re: Politics in Hayastan

                  Zeytun and Londontsi both make good points.

                  The parliamentary method is by far a more liberal system that has stronger checks and balances than what we have say in the USA. And the cultural feeling Armenians have that laws don't apply to them might very well be the biggest weakness of that country.

                  My experience when traveling to Armenia was that no one ever wanted a job because that would mean they were working for someone else. If they couldn't be the boss they had some kind of "amot" to work for someone else. I think it has a lot to do with communism and the general lack of trust in the government and crony business practices that happened in those days. Maybe a generation or two later the mindset will change

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                  • #219
                    Re: Politics in Hayastan

                    Originally posted by Zeytun View Post
                    The World's 10 Most Responsible Governments:
                    Here are the top 10 nations in that regard, according to the World Justice Project’s parameters.
                    1-Denmark
                    2-Sweden
                    3-Norway
                    4-Finland
                    5-Australia
                    6-New Zealand
                    7-The Netherlands
                    8-Austria
                    9-Germany
                    10-Japan

                    The World's 10 Most Responsible Governments
                    http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2012/11/29/the-worlds-10-most-responsible-governments/
                    Want a limited government that is held accountable to society? Here's where to live.


                    These 10 countries have a parliamentary systems , so it is not a coincidence that the top 10 countries where the rule of law , and where the governments are fair and accountable are parliamentary systems.

                    We are not going to become like Denmark or Finland but I believe we are on the right track.
                    I once read that the Armenian government is trying to correct the relation with the EU (after the U-turn of 2013) by shifting to a parliamentary system.
                    A good example of this is what erdogan is doing in turkey. Turkey is a parliament system and under that system they made a lot of strides. When this guy erdogan stepped in, all he has done is try to lead the role of the president to have more power, turning turkey into a system more like the USA and Russia. It's not a coincidence that if you want to take over the government you slowly remove the power of parliament

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                    • #220
                      Re: Politics in Hayastan
                      Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                      Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                      Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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