Syrian Armenian

[Vrej1915]

Re: Syrian Armenian

Cruel flash back:
Remember this period?

http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread.php/19386-Bashar-al-Assad-Syria-and-the-Armenian-people/page16?p=333899&viewfull=1#post333899

In the meen time, Armavia vanished, in the smog of unofficial embezzelment....
Read well what I was saying back then... and how people reacted.

I wish I was wrong, and armchair generals were the brains....


Do you still think an expeditionary adventure is for us an option?

[Vrej1915]

Re: Syrian Armenian

Have a look at the situational map of the day:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/88/Syrian_civil_war.png

Haleb is virtually under siege.
Plus the Armenian sectors are virtually in a siege, within the siege.
Plus, the entire province of Haleb is virtually cut off from Hama....

And this is the sector, where the turkish sponsored various entities are advancing most lately....

So logistics is just a nightmare....
At best, organised evacuation. And that would already be a major success.

[Eddo211]

Re: Syrian Armenian

Yes, evacuation would be the priority. I wasn't aware so many Armenians are in Syria.

Chance to go turkey shooting.


Just add:

The logistic itself will be a hard training........things change when your ass is really on the line.

[Vrej1915]

Re: Syrian Armenian

Yes, evacuation would be the priority. I wasn't aware so many Armenians are in Syria.

Chance to go turkey shooting.

I do not know the exact number by now.
But it was admitted, something between 80-100.000 before events.
You have 15.000 in Armenia.
Possibly some 10-20.000 in Lebanon, next dore, and possibly as much in Europe.
Yet, you must still have at least some 30.000 left, specially elders, poors, people that could not afford to flee, and have lost the small they had, in property or marchandise, and spent the result of 3 generations work to survive for the last 5 years of trouble....

Now the road via Turkey is totally closed.
The only option is a very dangerous, costly taxi trip via unsafe roads towards Hama, Homs, then Beirut....
A lot of people did dissapear on the road, if not got robbed...

[Eddo211]

Re: Syrian Armenian

Yes, how can we forsaken them? its just not in my blood. That is where Turks can freely do what they done before. And what does Armenia do? we are sending peacekeepers to places for nothing when they should be sent to Syria and kick Turkish ass.

[Vrej1915]

Re: Syrian Armenian

Yes, how can we forsaken them? its just not in my blood. That is where Turks can freely do what they done before. And what does Armenia do? we are sending peacekeepers to places for nothing when they should be sent to Syria and kick Turkish ass.

My Dear,
You are being misleaded by the word peacekeeper.
1- you do not kick the ass of turks by peacekeepers. If you are wise ans powerful, you do it by proxies, as they are doing it. If not, last resort, you do it by armed forces...
2- we are not senting peacekeepers for the sake of peace, while we are at war. What we are doing, is trying to use the thiniest links, to cooperate with the West, avoiding russia's veto. The only thing we found is peacekeepers.... even our boys in Lebanon do not defend a single Armenian, since they are based in southern Lebanon, where there is even not a single armenian family. And frankly speaking, do you think we do mind about turkoid albanians or afghans?

3- By the way, by coincidence, today the road between Damaskos and Hama, I was mentionning as risky, is already cut by the jihadis from the Ghuta, north of Damaskos. So today Haleb is even more isolated than it was 2 days back...

[Eddo211]

Re: Syrian Armenian

Peacekeepers = Our best Special Forces

[Vrej1915]

Re: Syrian Armenian

Peacekeepers = Our best Special Forces

I'm not sure at all.
They may have access to better western technologies, but they are not really engaged in military operations.
Our best forces are our special forces on duty in Arsakh.

[Vrej1915]

Re: Syrian Armenian

About 2,500 Syrian Armenians find shelter in Armenia since May


YEREVAN, September 16. / ARKA /. About 2,500 Syrian Armenian refugees
have arrived in Armenia since 2015 May, Diaspora minister Hranush
Hakobyan told a parliament Q&A session today.

She said 600 families are being provided with money to pay apartment
rent and another 150 people have received low-interest loans (4% per
annum) for starting businesses in Armenia.

According to her, thirty Syrian Armenian orphans and 46 elderly people
have been institutionalized here.

She said both international organizations, some countries as well
private persons are providing assistance to Syrian refugees in
Armenia, but `the attention of international organizations is now
drawn to the refugees in Europe.'

She said Aleppo, which had the largest Armenian community in Syria,
now has about 8,000 ethnic Armenians, while their number throughout
Syria has dwindled to about 15,000.

Before the civil strife in Syria, it had a 100,000-strong Armenian
community, the bulk being in Aleppo. Armenians lived also in the
northeast of the province of al-Hasaka, capital Damascus and other
towns.-0-

http://arka.am/en/news/society/about_2_500_syrian_armenians_find_shelter_in_armenia_since_may/#sthash.yeYlK39z.dpuf

[Vrej1915]

Re: Syrian Armenian

Armenia Keeps Its Arms Open to Syrian Refugees
September 18, 2015,
by Giorgi Lomsadze

http://www.eurasianet.org/node/75151

If there was a “little Armenia” in Syria, to borrow Armenian Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian’s words, there is also a little Syria in Armenia. The South Caucasus country has taken in 2,500 refugees from Syria just over the summer and continues to hand out visas and Armenian passports to Armenian-Syrians.

Before flooding into the European Union, Syrians, at least those of Armenian heritage, were streaming into Armenia. At 15,500 refugees since the start of the conflict, according to UNHCR and government figures, Armenia ranks as one of the most frequent destinations outside of the European Union for migrant Syrians relative to population, an Economist chart shows.

The mass arrival has been emphatically described as a “homecoming” in Armenia, where national identity is seen as something shared between the country’s residents and its far-flung Diasporas. “There are a 100 small and big Armenias around the world,” Foreign Minister Nalbandian told the BBC’s Russian service in a September 14 interview.

Solidarity with the struggles of Syrian-Armenians runs strong in Armenia, but the government has been struggling to accommodate and integrate thousands of arrivals. Even though the school year already started on September 1, “we try [sic] to find out how many Syrian Armenian children will attend . . . schools,” said Diaspora Minister Hranush Hakobian, Armenpress.am reported on September 16.

Hakobian estimated that as many as 15,000 ethnic Armenians remain in Syria -- about the same number as currently are in Armenia itself, according to UNHCR. In Aleppo, a traditional hub for Syria’s ethnic Armenians, the Armenian consul, Tigran Kevorkian, claims that his consulate is the only foreign diplomatic mission still functioning. “Three times a week, diplomats drive out to Kessab [another ethnic Armenian population base — ed] and [the port city of] Latakia to provide consular services,” he told News.am recently.

Shelling of the city has damaged and destroyed diaspora cultural sites in the Nor Gyugh, Aleppo’s Armenian quarter, said Gevorkian adding that the consulate has been evacuating cultural-heritage items to Lebanon and Armenia. He also said that his office still provides visas for free to Syrian-Armenian applicants.

With no decrease in the fighting in Syria in sight, Armenian officials expect a continued inflow of migrants from Syria. Building a “New Aleppo,” a residential complex near the capital, Yerevan, is among the projects Armenia is considering to help accommodate the arrivals.