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  • #61
    Originally posted by Sip
    Obviously you haven't heard of all the other countries that have acknowledged what Diasporan Armenians have been claiming. Don't listen to anyone in specific ... go and look at the facts for yourself and make up your own mind after considering all the facts.
    I am not talking about genocide argumant. I am talking about this "Evil Turks, facsist Turkey, etc." things. These are the things which you have created at your collective minds to create a caricaturised Turkish evil. This evil creation became a necessity for the diaspora Armenians to struggle with their national identity problems. This genocide argument created an artificial nation outside Armenia. A nation who only based upon this historical issue and who identify itself only with this issue.

    Otherwise I am not talking about 1915 because of the abovementioned facts. Because you made this a political argument instead of historical one and becuse of your this efforts it became impossible to search and argue this issue calmly and scientifically. You just parrot one thing: "no arguement, approve genocide or die" With the pressures of your international lobbies you blackmail Turkey, force to approve your claims by terrorism and these are making the issue more unsolveable.

    You grow up every new generation with Turkish hatred and evil Turks stories and they think that this evil story is a reality. You created a "genocide religion" That was what I said Sip.

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    • #62
      Karakitap , but your forget the fact that nobody likes Turks.Its not just about the Armenians.Why don't you try to search a little bit why nobody likes Turks.I mean we can't all be brainwashed and you only to be correct eh?

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Red Brigade
        Karakitap , but your forget the fact that nobody likes Turks.Its not just about the Armenians.Why don't you try to search a little bit why nobody likes Turks.I mean we can't all be brainwashed and you only to be correct eh?
        Well I have traveled many places in the world and besides your confused diaspora I did not hear any such thing as "nobody likes Turks" thing. Contrary people were very friendly. You created youself a dreamworld which Turks are playing a major role.
        By the way, how is weather like in Europe?

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        • #64
          Originally posted by karakitap
          Well I have traveled many places in the world and besides your confused diaspora I did not hear any such thing as "nobody likes Turks" thing. Contrary people were very friendly. You created youself a dreamworld which Turks are playing a major role.
          Is that why the European people are against their leaders to alow Turkey to enter in the EU?

          By the way, how is weather like in Europe?

          The weather is great..i am going to the Beach now.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Red Brigade
            Is that why the European people are against their leaders to alow Turkey to enter in the EU?




            The weather is great..i am going to the Beach now.
            That is a political and economical issue. Maybe it is too much complicated to understand for your racist community but the reason why some of Europeans object Turkey's entrance is not because they hate Turks. I have traveled almost everywhere in Europe and did not face a negative thing. The problem is at you, you are the ill people who are full of a childish patological hatred against Turks.
            Don't you see that you look like more miserable when you write as
            "location: Europe" to your avatar?
            You can not reach anywhere as a nation with these inferiotiy complexes and insecure obsessive behaviours. Be a real nation and don't make the world to ridicule with you.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by karakitap
              That is a political and economical issue. Maybe it is too much complicated to understand for your racist community but the reason why some of Europeans object Turkey's entrance is not because they hate Turks. I have traveled almost everywhere in Europe and did not face a negative thing. The problem is at you, you are the ill people who are full of a childish patological hatred against Turks.
              You can believe to that if it makes you feel better.


              Originally posted by karakitap
              Don't you see that you look like more miserable when you write as
              "location: Europe" to your avatar?
              You can not reach anywhere as a nation with these inferiotiy complexes and insecure obsessive behaviours. Be a real nation and don't make the world to ridicule with you.
              You are the real pathological clown here with inferiority complexes.You accuse Armenia which has a recorded history of thousands of years as not a real nation,yet you forget that you are an artifician fake nation with a history off less than 1000 years old,without your Alphabet , but a stolen latin one.And because you don't have the balls to accept the truth, you and the rest of you countrymen claim nations as Sumerians ,Huns,''Sea people'',Mongols,Hittites,Trojans and other ancient Civilizations as Turks, because you desperately seek a noble past to run away from the truth and the reality.The reality, which is that you have been barbarians without any contribution to mankind ,in arts ,philosophy physics and science.

              This little game with you is over since you are not entertaining anymore.

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              • #67
                karakitap, next time you are in Germany, ask how much they like Turks.
                this post = teh win.

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                • #68
                  as i said somewhere else ...i know (also actually saw) how people think of us..so karakitap i think you are wrong..people are just polite... (42 countries i have been to)

                  the ones who are good to us are the ones who dont know anythink about us... and those people here are polite too... they speak to us in a good manner now(mostly) but when we turn our back they will say at least " just a Turk nothing more"

                  they say we are barbarian.. that is/was/have been bad for them but thats does not mean it is a bad thing for us..if we are barbars then be it.. whats the harm... or maybe we are not.it is the way they see us and i really dont know why we are trying to change their minds...
                  just say " i dont agree" and move on...

                  i know one thing from my experiences around the world we Turks are built to survive and disturb the others nothing more..i saw turks in the bottom of china to mozambique....i admit we are not good (from their perspective) at arts,literature..we dont give much crap about history..so what...? thats all i can do and i am happy with that... i dont think i am missing anything...

                  i am really bored of human rights,EU,Armenian genocide,cypruss,greeks,arabs,kurds and many more by the way.....ofcourse things will change but we never liked forced things so everything will come to its balance someday...no need to rush

                  as a Turk i think we should stop trying to be someone else and be proud of what we are.... (i am proud and i dont need any confirmation of myself from others even if have doubts thats my concern)

                  and i want to complete my words with a piece of lyric from RANCID

                  just because you are better than me
                  doesnt mean i am lazy

                  just because i am dressed like this
                  doesnt mean i am a communist
                  Last edited by Otto; 06-20-2005, 12:09 PM.

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                  • #69
                    This thread is nearly two years old! Do not revive old threads.
                    [COLOR=#4b0082][B][SIZE=4][FONT=trebuchet ms]“If you think you can, or you can’t, you’re right.”
                    -Henry Ford[/FONT][/SIZE][/B][/COLOR]

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