Thoughts on Tashnagtsootyoon...

[xBaron Dants]

There are many Ramgavars involved in AGBU, that is true. And God knows that I've spoken out against that many many times. But there was a time where there were Tashnags too on AGBU's central board. That's what the AGBU is about. It has to be HAMAhaygagan. It's not in that state now, because of obvious reasons, but it will hopefully return to it.

However, in my 11 years of Alex Manoogian varjaran, NEVER has a teacher even mentioned Tashnagtsootyoon or Ramgavarootyoon, EXCEPT in the context of history, as in "the first goosagtsootyoons to fight against the Ottoman Empire were the Hnchagyans, the Tashnagtsootyoon and the Ramgavars". Had anybody said anything more, God knows that my parents would be the first to complain.

Let me just give you one example of something that has left a bitter taste in my mouth. This April 24, the AGBU scouts proposed to the HMEM scouts to lay a wreath together at the "hooshartsan". The proposition was refused, for no obvious reason.

[A.R.]

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Oh my. You're a different breed. The word "demolish" is in quotation marks, meaning that I have no intention of doing so...but then again, it's much easier to take whatever you want of a sentence and reply with a statement like you just did, right?



AR
I exposed your "historical facts" as propaganda and lies.. A quote below
from Baron... Your words give you away... Your one and only goal is
to slander The Dashnaktsutiun... You have no proof or facts just hot air...


"tashnagtsootyoon, whether we like it or not and whether we agree with it or not, is somewhat affiliated with terrorism." Baron




"AGBU ramkavar commie propaganda"...and I am supposed to believe that this is a man who truly believes in "miootyoone zorootyoon e"? Some people are still not over the Cold War. Quite sad really.




AR
I`am over it "buddy" it you who is not over it...

[xBaron Dants]

Oh, it must be stated however, that a friend of mine, who is a scouts leader at HMEM, seemed angry that HMEM had refused. So yes, it's something at the upper level.

[A.R.]

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There are many Ramgavars involved in AGBU, that is true. And God knows that I've spoken out against that many many times.



AR
The Ramkavars RUN AGBU..







But there was a time where there were Tashnags too on AGBU's central board.



AR
Not any more... The Ramkavars run AGBU






However, in my 11 years of Alex Manoogian varjaran, NEVER has a teacher even mentioned Tashnagtsootyoon or Ramgavarootyoon, EXCEPT in the context of history,


AR
Yes "history" the Ramkavar version of History.. That is why you
dislike the Great Armenian geneal DRO and spread propaganda about him..




Let me just give you one example of something that has left a bitter taste in my mouth. This April 24, the AGBU scouts proposed to the HMEM scouts to lay a wreath together at the "hooshartsan". The proposition was refused, for no obvious reason.



AR
The AGBU scouts don`t even come out to protest on April 24th here
it is all HMEM scouts, does that give me a reason to have a "bitter taste" in my mouth? I don`t have a "bitter taste" in my mouth, to each his own...

[dusken]

The AGBU scouts don`t even come out to protest on April 24th here
it is all HMEM scouts, does that give me a reason to have a "bitter taste" in my mouth? I don`t have a "bitter taste" in my mouth, to each his own...

Commemoration does not always have to take the form of a protest.

[xBaron Dants]

First off, I already said that the tashnags are no longer on the AGBU central board.
Second, there might be many ramgavars at the head of AGBU, but the volunteers, those who organize scouting, yevayln, are members of the AGBU and nothing else. This, of course, is based on my own observations in Montreal.
Third, all I've learned about DRO, I've learned it after leaving Alex Manoogian, so that argument doesn't hold either. And I don't dislike Dro the general. I just question Dro the politician.
And last, a question which might solve everything: where are you from?

[A.R.]

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I`am from DC but I don`t see how that "might solve everything"

[xBaron Dants]

Well if you were from good ole Haleb for example, you would've had the Haleb mentality. I'm born in Haleb myself, but they have one weird way of thinking sometimes.

[A.R.]

Well if you were from good ole Haleb for example, you would've had the Haleb mentality. I'm born in Haleb myself, but they have one weird way of thinking sometimes



AR
Both my parents are born in Haleb... I have cousins, aunts, uncles
their now...

[xBaron Dants]

Same here. But the stories I've heard about the needless bickering that occurs between everyone, ikh...I am not left with a good impression

Good food though.