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  • Re: The Struggle for Caucasia

    Originally posted by TomServo
    The Turkish state hasn't been here even for 100 years.

    Turkey hasn't. The Turkish people and some form of Turkish rule has been here for approximately 700 years now.

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    • Re: The Struggle for Caucasia

      Originally posted by shasa
      The struggle for Caucasia will finish when Armenian army enter to Baku not at Artsakh.
      Brave the future Re-conquest our historical lands from Baku to Cilicia!!!

      HAHAHAHA YOU ARE VERY HUMOROUS,,,,AND VERY QUICK-WITTED.YES ARMENIA CAN INVADE BAKU AND TURKISH LANDS....YOU MUST BE GENIUS...
      Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names.

      WHEN THE TERROR IS ALIVE,,,EVIL NEVER DIES....

      A nation which makes the final sacrifice for life and freedom doesnt get beaten.....

      mustafa kemal ATATÜRK

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      • Re: The Struggle for Caucasia

        Originally posted by ace
        Turkey hasn't. The Turkish people and some form of Turkish rule has been here for approximately 700 years now.
        yes totally true
        Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names.

        WHEN THE TERROR IS ALIVE,,,EVIL NEVER DIES....

        A nation which makes the final sacrifice for life and freedom doesnt get beaten.....

        mustafa kemal ATATÜRK

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        • Re: The Struggle for Caucasia

          Originally posted by bookmaker
          yes totally true
          Your completly un-welcome on our sacred land btw. Sikter.

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          • Re: The Struggle for Caucasia

            Originally posted by ace
            Your completly un-welcome on our sacred land btw. Sikter.
            once upon a time armenians lived in this anatolian lands,,,,,,but we didnt,,,,
            Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names.

            WHEN THE TERROR IS ALIVE,,,EVIL NEVER DIES....

            A nation which makes the final sacrifice for life and freedom doesnt get beaten.....

            mustafa kemal ATATÜRK

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            • Re: The Struggle for Caucasia

              Originally posted by skhara
              As they say, every joke has a bit of truth to it.

              I do think you are overannalyzing a bit though. I think right now, Armenia and Artsakh need to work to become fortreses. As far as Turkish enemies, you forgot the Iranians, standing 80 million strong, with a very good airforce and some of the more talented pilots. And as far as American support is concerned. Don't assume that the political climate within the United States is never going to change. Like you said, America is oceans away. America can loose interest and not be affected, while Iran, Armenia, Greece, Bulgaria will still be there. Anyway, lets not dwell on this too much and concentrate on the issues which are important right now.
              you forgot to make clear the most important thing,maybe you didnt want to state this reality.shakara,turkey has the most powerful airforce especially with F-4.and has the most powerful F-16 fighter plane fleet in NATO after AMERIKA,this is corroborated always...and is shown the second standing and capable of operating in every tough locations in everywhere.we proved this to whole world.by struggling to annihilate PKK terrorists in southeastern turkey.all nations especially AMERIKA and EUROPEN COUNTRIES GERMANY,BRITAIN,ITALY know it well.In everyInternationl military practises,we won military awards.because of our military power,EUROPEN UNION wants TURKEY to join this porganization.Every fair military experts in the world accept this fact.and I encounter these comments in defence journals on some of websites.at the same time turkish SECRET SERVICE is the most powerful especially in this region,in EUROASIA.turkey allocates a large sum of money for armaments and modernization of every war hardware.I didnt write this article because of my origin.but we must be fair..

              best wishes....
              Last edited by bookmaker; 02-14-2006, 04:52 AM.
              Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names.

              WHEN THE TERROR IS ALIVE,,,EVIL NEVER DIES....

              A nation which makes the final sacrifice for life and freedom doesnt get beaten.....

              mustafa kemal ATATÜRK

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              • Re: The Struggle for Caucasia

                Originally posted by skhara
                As they say, every joke has a bit of truth to it.

                I do think you are overannalyzing a bit though. I think right now, Armenia and Artsakh need to work to become fortreses. As far as Turkish enemies, you forgot the Iranians, standing 80 million strong, with a very good airforce and some of the more talented pilots. And as far as American support is concerned. Don't assume that the political climate within the United States is never going to change. Like you said, America is oceans away. America can loose interest and not be affected, while Iran, Armenia, Greece, Bulgaria will still be there. Anyway, lets not dwell on this too much and concentrate on the issues which are important right now.
                you forgot to make clear the most important thing,maybe you didnt want to state this reality.shakara,turkey has the most powerful F-16 fighter plane fleet in NATO after AMERIKA.and is shown the second standing and capable of operating in every tough locations in everywhere.we proved this to whole world.by struggling to annihilate PKK terrorists in southeastern turkey.all nations especially AMERIKA and EUROPEN COUNTRIES GERMANY,BRITAIN,ITALY know it well.In everyInternationl military practises,we won military awards.because of our military power,EUROPEN UNION wants TURKEY to join this organization.Every fair military experts in the world accept this fact.and I encounter these comments in defence journals on some of websites.at the same time turkish SECRET SERVICE is the most powerful especially in this region,in EUROASIA.turkey allocates a large sum of money for armaments and modernization of every war hardware.I didnt write this article because of my origin.but we must be fair..

                best wishes....
                Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names.

                WHEN THE TERROR IS ALIVE,,,EVIL NEVER DIES....

                A nation which makes the final sacrifice for life and freedom doesnt get beaten.....

                mustafa kemal ATATÜRK

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                • Re look at this carefully

                  [QUOTE=ace]Yes, but that was a joke. For Greece, Bulgaria, Armenia, Russia, and Syria to declare war on Turkey, it would take a political climate of...something like a world war. And Armenia warring with Turkey would be devestating. We'd have to either focus our entire army on the western front, or split it in half. Splitting it in half would leave us getting crushed on both sides. And concentrating all our forces onto one front would let us defenseless on the other.

                  However, Turkey being part of NATO, and probably one of Americas most powerful (and closest) allies (especially these days) - it would be in Americas best interest to support their "gigantic" army - which btw is roughly equal to Armenias, Greeces, AND Bulgarias armies combined - with the fire power it needs to make such a gigantic force fully operational.

                  Armenia would get funded by Russia. Greece, Bulgaria, and Syria would be left without xxxx, except political pressure to widthraw forces.

                  Like I said though, a World War climate would be needed to make such a thing happen.

                  Anyway, yes, I agree though. The Turk since its invasion of our peaceful land from its savage mongolian caves has depended on nothing but his barbaric ways, looting every defenseless village and town, raping the women, enslaving the weak, inheriting the beatiful women, and stealing babies and raising them as their own.

                  Every nation that has come into contact with the Turks has an undying hatred for them. The only nation willing to befriend it is a nation an ocean away from it who has never seen a day of Turkish savagry.

                  Unforutently, their savage, incompassionate ways has helped them survive longer, and live richly. It is only today we're seeing the world become conscious of the true history of the Turks.



                  Why do you always reflect turks as barbarians,be respectful towards turks.these brutal activities were perpetrated by armenian separatists as they were trying to dismember turkey and split into parts.but they couldnt realize it.We fought against the most powerful nations,regardless of our weaponary deficiency,we achieved to push them off from anatolia.and we dropped them to turkish seas which surrounding turkey....I must defend my origin,because you make up lie story about turkey......
                  Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names.

                  WHEN THE TERROR IS ALIVE,,,EVIL NEVER DIES....

                  A nation which makes the final sacrifice for life and freedom doesnt get beaten.....

                  mustafa kemal ATATÜRK

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                  • Re: The Struggle for Caucasia

                    [QUOTE=ace]Yes, but that was a joke. For Greece, Bulgaria, Armenia, Russia, and Syria to declare war on Turkey, it would take a political climate of...something like a world war. And Armenia warring with Turkey would be devestating. We'd have to either focus our entire army on the western front, or split it in half. Splitting it in half would leave us getting crushed on both sides. And concentrating all our forces onto one front would let us defenseless on the other.

                    However, Turkey being part of NATO, and probably one of Americas most powerful (and closest) allies (especially these days) - it would be in Americas best interest to support their "gigantic" army - which btw is roughly equal to Armenias, Greeces, AND Bulgarias armies combined - with the fire power it needs to make such a gigantic force fully operational.

                    Armenia would get funded by Russia. Greece, Bulgaria, and Syria would be left without xxxx, except political pressure to widthraw forces.

                    Like I said though, a World War climate would be needed to make such a thing happen.

                    Anyway, yes, I agree though. The Turk since its invasion of our peaceful land from its savage mongolian caves has depended on nothing but his barbaric ways, looting every defenseless village and town, raping the women, enslaving the weak, inheriting the beatiful women, and stealing babies and raising them as their own.

                    Every nation that has come into contact with the Turks has an undying hatred for them. The only nation willing to befriend it is a nation an ocean away from it who has never seen a day of Turkish savagry.

                    Unforutently, their savage, incompassionate ways has helped them survive longer, and live richly. It is only today we're seeing the world become conscious of the true history of the Turks.


                    we are not savage,we are honest,polite,refined,gracious,helpful,benevolent, compassionate,kind,benign,impeccable,humble,tender ,demure,candid,congenial,friendly,warm,mild,affect ionate,graceful,cordial,captivating,enthrolling,fa scinating,attracting,glamorous,reviting,dazzling,m esmerizing,sensible,level-headed,lenient,soft-spoken
                    Forgive your enemies, but never forget their names.

                    WHEN THE TERROR IS ALIVE,,,EVIL NEVER DIES....

                    A nation which makes the final sacrifice for life and freedom doesnt get beaten.....

                    mustafa kemal ATATÜRK

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                    • Re: The Struggle for Caucasia

                      Originally posted by bookmaker
                      you forgot to make clear the most important thing,maybe you didnt want to state this reality.shakara,turkey has the most powerful F-16 fighter plane fleet in NATO after AMERIKA.and is shown the second standing and capable of operating in every tough locations in everywhere.we proved this to whole world.by struggling to annihilate PKK terrorists in southeastern turkey.all nations especially AMERIKA and EUROPEN COUNTRIES GERMANY,BRITAIN,ITALY know it well.In everyInternationl military practises,we won military awards.because of our military power,EUROPEN UNION wants TURKEY to join this organization.Every fair military experts in the world accept this fact.and I encounter these comments in defence journals on some of websites.at the same time turkish SECRET SERVICE is the most powerful especially in this region,in EUROASIA.turkey allocates a large sum of money for armaments and modernization of every war hardware.I didnt write this article because of my origin.but we must be fair..

                      best wishes....
                      Russia has an anti-air system that at this point, has made ANY operating airforce OBSELETE. A few of those systems on the Armenian border and the threat of attack on Armenia will be gone.

                      All will be left for Turkey to do is bomb eastern Turkey attempting to hit Armenian quarters. If the Armenian airforce had numbers, it would just be dog fights - the airforce would be strategic for Turkey but not completly effective.

                      Greece's Airforce is amazing btw . Listen, yes, Turkey can wipe out Armenia in days. But within 20-40 years...where Armenias millitary and economy will blossom, Turkey warring with GREECE, BULGARIA, SERBIA, ARMENIA (and maybe Syria) + the 12 MILLION KURDISH internal problem you have...there is NO CHANCE for Turkey to win. They'll be fighting a war within their own nation, they'll also have to split their entire millitary up into 2, fighting 2 nations on both fronts.

                      That is the reason why Germany lost both World Wars. They were stupid enough to fight a two front war.

                      And your PKK terrorists want you to stop committing genocide against them, and or, give them their own nation. They dont want to kill Turks cause they hate you. They want you to stop destroying their people, and cultures.

                      Still, your still savages. GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD, the ENTIRE WORLD ACCEPTS THIS. NOBODY LIKES TURKEY OR TURKSIH PEOPLE.. Except America and Israel (and those are both xxxish nations and wouldn't like you if the xxxs didnt control them). So stfu.

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