Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

[Kanki]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

You are not thinking at all. After the attaturks systematically annihilated and committed a Genocide against the Armenians, how could anyone in the right mind object to a few survivors who wanted to fight back to save theirs or their kins' skins. It's like saying to an intruder to your house with a gun or a knife pointing at you and you not defending yourself. The courts, the jury and the judge will certainly be on the side of the defending party!!!!!

Of course they did. but there is Armenian attacks to Turks (provaceting and supported by Russians) before the 1915 and and begining of the 19. century. Why Russians are guilty to broken Turk-Armenian relations,and also germens are guilty for 1915 Armenian massacres

Anyway, you can not find a Turk (like me) accepts massacres. . .

[Anoush]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Of course they did. but there is Armenian attacks to Turks (provaceting and supported by Russians) before the 1915 and and begining of the 19. century. Why Russians are guilty to broken Turk-Armenian relations,and also germens are guilty for 1915 Armenian massacres

Anyway, you can not find a Turk (like me) accepts massacres. . .

Are you talking about freeing Van right after the Genocide? Armenians found shelter and the right to live under the Russian army's wings. If someone comes and kills your brother, your father, grandfathers and uncles; don't you go to finally and thankfully find shelter under an army who came about to protect you? Of course you do. In Van, the Armenians finally fought back to save themselves. And that was their right to live!!!!

In the Russian army, Armenians fought as they were the citizens of Russia. That was that. My own grandfather fought in the turkish army in the first WW against Russia. And much later he only found out that his whole family were annihilated by the turkish government (the attaturks); can you imagine how unbelievably saddened he was after hearing that horrible news?

My grandfather went to the turkish military school for two years before WWI and so he was a high ranking officer in the turkish army during WWI.

[xcelr8Armo]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

yes... Armenians did attack turks before 1915 but it was nothing close to a massacre

you know i once got told Armenia was the first terrorist country

[Kanki]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

you know i once got told Armenia was the first terrorist country

Because of ASALA they killed a lot of diplomats, however, Turkey recognized your country, before the many western countries, -collepse of Soviet Union


It is clearly there is a genocide, but something offends me, your people accuse all of Turks, and announce Turks as a murder. . . my father is a Turk, he lives in Ankara, in first war his older relationships fought to against French, Britons and Greeks, My family has no connection with the genocide. and I have no bad idea for Armenians. . . Your generalizations feel me sad

[xcelr8Armo]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Heres the thing. I really do hate turks with a passion (no offense there, i usually make fun of males. I dont like to disrespect females) and i am not as bad as my friend. he just starts fights with turks because... well because they are turks.


but the reason Armenians hate turks is because they haven't admited to doing the genocide, they haven'd said sorry. They jsut want to hide it all under a neat little carpet.

So what happens is Armenians take out their anger on Turkish citizens or jsut any turk.

ASALA were my heros

[Anoush]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

yes... Armenians did attack turks before 1915 but it was nothing close to a massacre

you know i once got told Armenia was the first terrorist country

Get wisened up; how could it be Armenia? We had no country remember? It was turkey NOT Armenia. We lived in turkey as citizens of turkey and we were the bread and butter of turkey as we paid very high taxes and provided a lot of jobs and maintained good businesses or middle class or upper middle class countrymen.

If few Armenians armed themselves under the wings of Henchagtsoutyun and then Tashnagtsoutyun; it was after Abdul Hamid II who annihilated 300,000 Armenians from 1895 through 1896. And also during, before and after 1895 Armenians were always being looted, abducted, stolen, raped and killed. And regardless they were always being good citizens of turkey.

[Kanki]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Get wisened up; how could it be Armenia? We had no country remember? It was turkey NOT Armenia. We lived in turkey as citizens of turkey and we were the bread and butter of turkey as we paid very high taxes and provided a lot of jobs and maintained good businesses or middle class or upper middle class countrymen.

If few Armenians armed themselves under the wings of Henchagtsoutyun and then Tashnagtsoutyun; it was after Abdul Hamid II who annihilated 300,000 Armenians from 1895 through 1896. And also during, before and after 1895 Armenians were always being looted, abducted, stolen, raped and killed. And regardless they were always being good citizens of turkey.

Don't tell Ottoman Government both Abdülhamit both generals are not Turk... and veziers are not Turk. Sultans mothers are foreign women, (Sultans don't have Turkish blood) Also Anatolian Turks suffer from heavy taxes like you. I hate Ottoman Empire

[Azad]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

It is clearly there is a genocide, but something offends me, your people accuse all of Turks, and announce Turks as a murder. . .

Kanki gourban you are on the right track. Make a little more effort maybe we could be neighbors one day when we will get our lands back.

Read this book.

http://www.amazon.com/Shameful-Act-Armenian-Genocide-Responsibility/dp/0805079327

[Anoush]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Heres the thing. I really do hate turks with a passion (no offense there, i usually make fun of males. I dont like to disrespect females) and i am not as bad as my friend. he just starts fights with turks because... well because they are turks.


but the reason Armenians hate turks is because they haven't admited to doing the genocide, they haven'd said sorry. They jsut want to hide it all under a neat little carpet.

So what happens is Armenians take out their anger on Turkish citizens or jsut any turk.

ASALA were my heros

You are wrong! I do not hate all turks; I disrespect any turk who justifies the Genocide or who is on the denyalist's side.

And also the murders are going on and on today by turkey. When turkey accepts the Genocide and stops the continuation of the Genocide when they murdered our Hrant Dink and gives back our lands what was ours for over 6,000 years, then only then I'll shut up.

[Kanki]

Re: Why Turkey will never be admitted into the European Union

Kanki gourban you are on the right track. Make a little more effort maybe we could be neighbors one day when we will get our lands back.

Azad Gurban I am trying to look objective I do nothing