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Iraq... an Armenian view.

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  • #81
    Originally posted by IAmMadAtAC
    That's like saying Hitler would be a good teacher of human rights because he violated it so much he got experience and can show how not to act?? Where's the common sense there?

    Yes, percieved by some minds i guess so.

    But perhaps some study what has happened to their people, what happened to other people, and what is happening today??? And please, flame me by associating my comments with those of of a dictator of whom who's actions are well documented. Nice points of view you work from here... Chastise Jews, their comments on one board and then quote their persecuter on the next. All i can do is tell you of what will be, not what my paranoid head thinks will be. Cool, do something smart for yourselfs... put guns down, try talking. And before i get your interpretations of that, forget it. Live like pigs in a third world country... Cuz till you wise up, that is all you can be. 40% poverty. How many of you that use computers fall into that category???

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    • #82
      Originally posted by obi
      Yes, percieved by some minds i guess so.

      But perhaps some study what has happened to their people, what happened to other people, and what is happening today??? And please, flame me by associating my comments with those of of a dictator of whom who's actions are well documented. Nice points of view you work from here... Chastise Jews, their comments on one board and then quote their persecuter on the next. All i can do is tell you of what will be, not what my paranoid head thinks will be. Cool, do something smart for yourselfs... put guns down, try talking. And before i get your interpretations of that, forget it. Live like pigs in a third world country... Cuz till you wise up, that is all you can be. 40% poverty. How many of you that use computers fall into that category???
      Keep your Armenians straight genius. I was actually chastizing Armenians on the other board for what seems to be a scary undercurrent of anti-Semitism in the comments of others at this board. I was speaking out against it so I'd appreciate a retraction of your accusation. Also, where did I quote Hitler? I was using him as an example to show the error of your ways saying the British are the best to teach peace to others since they have been so non-peaceful through their history. Clearly that was an absurd comment. All you are doing is taking my correct comments and incorrectly finding "faults" with them to attack me with that has nothing to do with the facts I am presenting. Enough with these almost impossible to understand and incorrect character attacks on me and get back to the facts of what I was telling you. So where was I... oh yeah that you are completely wrong in all your Britain is the best for Iraq because we are so peaceful because I pointed out how Britain not only is one of the most unpeaceful countries in the world but its meddling has helped lead to the very Iraq war we find ourselves in. Care to counter with something factual and not random invokings of God and/or holier than thou speak that doesn't address what I just said?

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      • #83
        Originally posted by obi
        Yes, percieved by some minds i guess so.

        But perhaps some study what has happened to their people, what happened to other people, and what is happening today??? And please, flame me by associating my comments with those of of a dictator of whom who's actions are well documented. Nice points of view you work from here... Chastise Jews, their comments on one board and then quote their persecuter on the next. All i can do is tell you of what will be, not what my paranoid head thinks will be. Cool, do something smart for yourselfs... put guns down, try talking. And before i get your interpretations of that, forget it. Live like pigs in a third world country... Cuz till you wise up, that is all you can be. 40% poverty. How many of you that use computers fall into that category???
        wow very nice things you have to say about Armenia, maybe this girl Narineh should hear this. Living like pigs in a third world country? if you only knew anything about Armenia i would take this offensively. Obviously you dont know jack shyt. Dont try telling us to wise up and put down our weapons to solve problems, we arent idiots and we certainly dont need the british teaching us how to fix our problems.

        When we Armenians had an advanced, flourishing civilization your people were still running around in leather jerkins clubbing the crap out of each other over who got the antelope.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by obi
          Yes, percieved by some minds i guess so.

          But perhaps some study what has happened to their people, what happened to other people, and what is happening today??? And please, flame me by associating my comments with those of of a dictator of whom who's actions are well documented. Nice points of view you work from here... Chastise Jews, their comments on one board and then quote their persecuter on the next. All i can do is tell you of what will be, not what my paranoid head thinks will be. Cool, do something smart for yourselfs... put guns down, try talking. And before i get your interpretations of that, forget it. Live like pigs in a third world country... Cuz till you wise up, that is all you can be. 40% poverty. How many of you that use computers fall into that category???

          Oh, no my gut tells me not to respond to this thread, but I just have to do it. I'm just laughing right now.

          Lol, did I hear him right:"Put down those guns and start talking." WHAT? Isnt the British in this war? Wait I havent been watching TV in a long time. Did something happen I dont know about?

          P. S. Why dont you stop acting like a pig. I'm suprised you even like an Armenian girl after what you just said. Its a shame to hear this.
          You can't hold a man down without staying down with him.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by -Pyunik-
            Pfft. This guy is trolling now. He can't continue the argument about Iraq, but everything we said pisses him off. He doesn't agree with it, but he can't refute it either and that makes him frustated.
            Yeah, I was also going to stop responding and accuse him of being a troll. But the notion that there is somebody like him in Britain who actually thinks the way he does was so appauling I wanted to set him straight. Since I now see that is impossible I too give up- but certainly not for a lack of trying. I have shoved an insane amount of sense into him but seeing as he has no ability to comprehend it- or is just being a troll- I am finished as well.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by obi
              No Dants, of course it doesn't. My opinion is from a free europeans point of view. The ones i see here reflect those of a nations that is lost, in turmoil. As an outsider it is much easier to see a problem and see a solution. In England and America we had corruption and mafia type control, but we stood up to it. Said 'no more'.

              I hear jibes because i say do not live in the past. Then they say "it was only early 70's".... yes, In politics a long time ago. To argue the claim that things do not change so fast i will just mention the Berlin Wall, the break up of the former ussr. And many more...

              We are moving toward world peace. Armenian people do not see this. The Czech Republik lived as you do, but they have seen where they were going wrong. In the Ukraine, they have said "NO" to corruption. Please watch them grow for my proof. All embargos will be lifted, free trade.

              We were at war with France for over 200 years, then one day someone said hey, rather than watch our children die why not try talking to them???? Reach an agreement. What I am saying is that each year you spend 6% of your GDP on military, yet 40% of your people live in poverty???? To europe that is crazy, cruel... stupid. It makes Armenia look unstable. And why you do this??? Because of Turkey. Even now you think all will attack you, you have no trust... Other nations will not trust you if you do not trust.

              All I can say is that within 20 years you will all know a new way of life, and you will trust... And this forum will still be open, so thank me then, Amen.
              An Outsider can not see the problem and solution clearly, you are an outsider after all. Does an Englishmen or American know what is best of an Iraqi? Of course not. Iraqis have lived in their country with their laws and they have all been well off. As an outsider, you do not reaize that the Middle East is not a EUROPE, violence is still the name of the game. Women are not mistreated, this is just something that is blown way out of prespective by Westerners.

              The nations that are all of a sudden clinging onto Europe have no future. Does it matter if you chose a Russia or Europe? No, you are stilll a pawn, only with Europe, you are a well dressed pawn. It is all lies, Obi. Europe or America or Russia do not look after the world's interest, they look after their own.

              6% is still quite little seeing our situation is getting worse by the day. America has seen the opportunity in gaining the upper hand in the area and is providing Georgia and Azerbaijan with more military aid. You really can not fight against that.

              In 20 years, Armenia will cease to exist because of a constant tug-of-war between America, Europe, and Russia.

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              • #87
                Originally posted by Hayq
                An Outsider can not see the problem and solution clearly, you are an outsider after all. Does an Englishmen or American know what is best of an Iraqi? Of course not. Iraqis have lived in their country with their laws and they have all been well off. As an outsider, you do not reaize that the Middle East is not a EUROPE, violence is still the name of the game. Women are not mistreated, this is just something that is blown way out of prespective by Westerners.

                The nations that are all of a sudden clinging onto Europe have no future. Does it matter if you chose a Russia or Europe? No, you are stilll a pawn, only with Europe, you are a well dressed pawn. It is all lies, Obi. Europe or America or Russia do not look after the world's interest, they look after their own.

                6% is still quite little seeing our situation is getting worse by the day. America has seen the opportunity in gaining the upper hand in the area and is providing Georgia and Azerbaijan with more military aid. You really can not fight against that.

                In 20 years, Armenia will cease to exist because of a constant tug-of-war between America, Europe, and Russia.
                amazing the shyt that someone is capable of typing after a crack binge.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by Hayq
                  In 20 years, Armenia will cease to exist because of a constant tug-of-war between America, Europe, and Russia.
                  LOL, serious? Ok, I'll write down your statement. We'll see in 20 years. Don't you be wrong aha, this could mean serious embarassement.

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                  • #89
                    All of us live outside Armenia in 1st world countries. We all have some form of education and a variety of viewpoints.

                    You mistake us for illiterate third world citizens, we're not. Armenians have never been in any type of Agressive war since the time of Tigrant (100A.D.). After that, we have been preety much pacifist, only fighting to defend.

                    To be fair, there are anti-zionists and pro-zionists on this board. I am anti-zionist, hyejinx is pro. We all have preety much static POV.

                    I don't know, you seem preety clean, Obi...perhaps it is because I am not English or American, if I were, I would want the best for my country...

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                    • #90
                      In 20 years if all goes as planned I will be the President of Armenia. If nothing has been done by then at least trust that everything will be fixed after I am in office. Idiots like hayq will be spanked in republic square and the spanking will be broadcast throughout the world on major news organizations with headlines like "Idiot predicting downfall of Armenia 20 years ago spanked severely in public, englishman who talks out of his ass is up for a spanking tomorrow!!!"

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