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  • #41
    Originally posted by Baron Dants
    The reason why we commemorate the genocide on April 24th is because that is the date when all the intellectuals were rounded up by the Ottomans.
    I am aware of that. Do you know that many of these intellectuals were also allowed to escape?

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    • #42
      Originally posted by XxgoeyxX
      Lets all stop and cry cause you're a idiot.

      sniff sniff.

      You're worse then that troll obi. And yet I like you for some reason.
      lol because I am not British?

      Obi has not been to Armenia and does not have contact with ARmenians.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by Hayq
        You always have a phucking CHOICE. There were sooo few Turks in the Ottoman Empire. 10mln Turks, 2mln Armenians. Most Turks were busy fighting, it was something we Armenians could have easily won. If you think I dont care that people died, you're wrong. However, I am not going to say "oh, we had no choice." Of course, you see your overlords are turning against you, and you join their Army?
        NO use denying that our political movements were at their infancy and none had the insight nor the ability to do anything competent.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Baron Dants
          NO use denying that our political movements were at their infancy and none had the insight nor the ability to do anything competent.
          They may have been at their infancy, but we were comming out of something that was supposed to unite our race, but the leaders pocketed a lot of money and jamed to France.

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          • #45
            Originally posted by Hayq
            They may have been at their infancy, but we were comming out of something that was supposed to unite our race, but the leaders pocketed a lot of money and jamed to France.

            I'm not making any excuses by saying that they were at their infancy. They failed, and failed miserably. I still don't understand how our main parties were being operated from London, Geneva, etc..

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            • #46
              Originally posted by Baron Dants
              I'm not making any excuses by saying that they were at their infancy. They failed, and failed miserably. I still don't understand how our main parties were being operated from London, Geneva, etc..
              I think that their main failure was that they were so naive. When the Russians and British were arguing for better conditions for Armenians, they were doing so for their own political interests, not out of love for Armenians. Many Armenian political leaders before the Genocide very badly misinterpreted that "support" as an indication that they could start a revolt. That was the main strategic mistake. The other mistake, this one more tactical, was to forget the fact that the Armenians in Constantinople were just one fraction of the total Armenian populace. While some of the intellectual elite in Constantinople were arguing for Armenian emancipation, the Armenians in the Anatolian hinterland were extremely vulnerable, as they were not very armed at first, had little education to understand the political gravity of the situation, and they were far from the sight of foreign diplomats.

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              • #47
                Yes I agree with jgm. The bulk of Armenians were from the hinterlands of Western Armenia, and they were just simple peasants. They had no idea of the gravity of world affairs and probably paid little mind to things outside their village. How were they to understand they were about to be caught up in a genocide.
                It was the nationalistic feelings of the time that encouraged the intellectuals to seek independence, something that occured throughout Europe, though now Turkey sees it as a justification for genocide.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by IAmMadAtAC
                  Yes I agree with jgm. The bulk of Armenians were from the hinterlands of Western Armenia, and they were just simple peasants. They had no idea of the gravity of world affairs and probably paid little mind to things outside their village. How were they to understand they were about to be caught up in a genocide.
                  It was the nationalistic feelings of the time that encouraged the intellectuals to seek independence, something that occured throughout Europe, though now Turkey sees it as a justification for genocide.
                  I dont believe this independence sh!t even happened. So what you are saying, it is because of the intellectuals who were speaking for the rest of the people, this genocide happened. BOO!

                  The Genocide was nothing more than an economic move tooken by the Jews to gain control of Baku.

                  The Armenian intellectuals knew about it and the majority of them ran away instead of stay.

                  The Armenians who fought were true Armenians because they knew of the hell that was about to come.

                  The rest just died out of ignorance.

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                  • #49
                    Originally posted by Hayq
                    The Genocide was nothing more than an economic move tooken by the Jews to gain control of Baku.
                    OK I know you are extremely anti-Semitic but please! Using the Jews are the impetus for EVERYTHINg wrong EVER really lessens your creditability. Shall we blame the genocide of the native Americans on the Jews as well? Seriously, not everything in history can be brought back to the Jews and it's best to not rely on them being the reason for everything bad. It just makes you look stupid to blame them for absolutely everything.

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                    • #50
                      Originally posted by IAmMadAtAC
                      OK I know you are extremely anti-Semitic but please! Using the Jews are the impetus for EVERYTHINg wrong EVER really lessens your creditability. Shall we blame the genocide of the native Americans on the Jews as well? Seriously, not everything in history can be brought back to the Jews and it's best to not rely on them being the reason for everything bad. It just makes you look stupid to blame them for absolutely everything.
                      I am not bringing everything in history to the Jews. I acknowledge the smart Jews and good ones, but there is too many of them that are just plain ZIONISTS. Lol I am not extremely anti-semitic, if I were, I would have beaten up the Jews at school...I am a deeply LOVING an CARING person.

                      Genocide of Native Americans was clearly the fault of Greedy White settlers who were failures in Western Europe.

                      You are right about one thing, showing the dark side of the Kikes is a very bad thing, you get rediculed and they degrade you. Because American media and education system is dominated by them, every year we watch a movie on the holocaust. I can tell a Mexican, straight in his face, that all Mexicans are vile pieces of filth...thy wont do anything. But if I tell a Mexican that the Jews are not good people (just as simple as that), you should see how they stand up for them. YAY WE AGREE!

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