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Originally posted by CatWoman
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I personally think Armenia should be on Russia's side.. I'm still doubtful though.. The thing is that history showed how Russia, like no other country, supported Armenia through war time with muslim vermins. And its friendliness is not based on merely our charismatic appeal.. They really need that spot in the Caucasus. With Russia we are good friends, we all speak Russian, watch Russian TV, eat Russian food and listen to Russian music in Armenia, our cultures are well harmonized and any western influence would come in between us. Of course, geographically Armenia is in Europe, and it was the center of European culture once... There is no reason why it shouldn't be part of EU except the Russian question.. Maybe we should wait until we can go there together with Russia... -
Originally posted by Metsamor
Don't you think its wrong to have that much Russian influence on almost everything in Armenia? I mean yes, Armenians in Armenia speak Russian but that's about it. It's our country too... lol. I was in Armenia 8 years ago, and I remember all the street names and signs and stuff were in Russian and I couldn't read them. Why not write them in Armenian? It's not like Russian is an international language, lol. I mean the Soviet days are long gone, it's about time for Armenia to be Armenia, independent. I don't know, I don't like it. I mean keep the good relations, but be independent. Also just because two cultures are harmonized, doesn't mean they need to stick together forever. We should go with whatever benefits us the most, and I truly believe the choice should be the EU... but ey, who am I to decide?
I didn't know Russia was so much against Armenia joining the EU... Why is that?(we're speaking of Armenia joining the EU, like it's gonna happen tomorrow! hahaha
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If you go to Armenian now, you can see that all streets names are written in Armenian, what's more, now government is changing names of streets, which I think is too much... if we are not in Soviet Union, doesn't mean that we need to change street's name Kutuzov into Gyulbekyan... and many-many others... collapse of Soviet Union, doesn't change our history... we have always been with Russia, and I think that we need to stay with them… they are our neighbors, and they always helped us…Originally posted by CatWoman
Don't you think its wrong to have that much Russian influence on almost everything in Armenia? I mean yes, Armenians in Armenia speak Russian but that's about it. It's our country too... lol. I was in Armenia 8 years ago, and I remember all the street names and signs and stuff were in Russian and I couldn't read them. Why not write them in Armenian? It's not like Russian is an international language, lol. I mean the Soviet days are long gone, it's about time for Armenia to be Armenia, independent. I don't know, I don't like it. I mean keep the good relations, but be independent. Also just because two cultures are harmonized, doesn't mean they need to stick together forever. We should go with whatever benefits us the most, and I truly believe the choice should be the EU... but ey, who am I to decide?
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I can not be more agry...Originally posted by MetsamorComment
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The street names are a small step but quite symbolic, we arent a freakin Russian province for God's sake. The collapse of a system that did contribute a lot to our development but also worked hard to stiffle our national pride, culture and religion shouldnt be viewed as anything but positive. Nothing can change history, it is done and over, but this is our present and at present our nation is independant Armenia and we can look to a more glorious and independant history not to Russian control and in a large way loss of national dignity. I speak Russian as well as Armenian, I have Russian friends but I am first and foremost Armenian and I realize that thats the only thing that matters because there isnt anyone sitting in Russia right now saying lets name this road after an Armenian because they are our neighbors and have helped us, NO! Whenever the Russians or anyone else has helped us it has always been out of self-interest. Whether it was against the turks after WW1 or against the other turks 15 years ago. Why cant we realize that and start looking after our own national interests for once?Originally posted by AnushikComment
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I'm not saying that Russia helped us because we were such a nice people. I understand that there were/are many benefits for Russia... but when Russia was helping us, US didn't even bother to think what was going on in this part of glob... when last year I came to the US, I was shocked to see that literally nobody knows where Armenia is, what it is etc ... Every time when I was saying "I’m from Armenia", the answer always was "aaaaaaaaaa, Albania, yes I know..." or "aaaaaaaaaa, Rumania, WOW..." ... and the government of this people wants us to choose them over Russia?... why now we need to consider to "leave" Russia, where at least everybody knows where Armenia is and what it is, and enter EU and be with US... I'm pretty sure that the day we decide to "leave" Russia, the war with Azaries and Turks will start... maybe I believe in Russia too much but this is what our History taught us... we are too small country and we can not afford to have an enemy like Russia...Originally posted by TigranJamharian
In changing street's name maybe you have a point, but I still think that some names should not be changed... anyway this is my opinion...Comment
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OMG... inches asoom? EU (European Union) doesn't mean US, lol...Originally posted by Anushik
Oh and you rather have the street names of your country be in some other language than your own? whatever...Comment
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OOOOOOOOOO, I know very well that EU doesn't mean US... the thing is that US wants us to be in EU and Russia doesn't... for me being in EU is the same as choosing US over Russia, that's why I used EU and US as the same thing... this is one explenation...Originally posted by CatWoman
the other one... I don't say that Armenian streets' names should be written in Russian (I didn't see any street's name written in Russian during past 5-6 years at least). I'm just saying that we should not change the names of the streets... write in Armenian language but don't change the names ...Comment
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The US had no interest in that part of the globe maybe because we are 10000 miles from them. Now they definately have interest because they realize its a strategic region. and this has nothing to do with the US and I dont see where you get "the US wants Armenia to be in EU and Russia doesnt" there is no US position, at least not an official one, but the US does want democratization and an open economy. Why doesnt Russia want us in? because that way we would actually get some self sufficiency. How is Russia helping us nowadays besides militarily guarding our borders? The Russians take over our electricity network and production and invest almost nill even though the promised plenty while the EU is giving millions of Euros in grants and hundreds of millions in loans to encourage renewable energy, keep our forests, increase standard of living of the people and cut down on corruption. Russia doesnt care, their government is arguable more F-ed up than ours and they could care less about our economy, the living standards of our people or whether we are burning coal and oil and polluting our nation or we are developing renewable energy and protecting our environment. If anything Russia wants to keep Armenia weak and vulnerable so that we are its de-facto province. And you say noone knows what Armenia is in the US, well i have to say i disagree, either im nuts or you are talking to some really unintelligent people. If my country basically owned another one for 70 years like Russia owned Armenia i doubt i wouldnt have heard of it. If you havent heard Armenians arent exactly the loved people in Russia, Armenians there are viewed worse than blacks were in the US for hundreds of years. If we entered the EU i find it highly unlikely that anyone would start a war with Armenia, that way we would have 25 of the most developed and powerful nations supporting us because we belong to and organization whose name they wish to preserve while now we are at the whim of Putin and a few thousand Russian soldiers stationed in our country, incidentally being fed and clothed by us. Noone is saying make an enemy of Russia, that would be senseless and stupid. Im just saying that at a choice of between Russia and the EU I find it difficult how you could see the benefits of irresponisble and unstable Russia that can barely take care of itself let alone putting our interests to heart.Originally posted by AnushikComment
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I can agree with you in some points but... I don't thing that it's any country's right to decide how other country should operate... don't you think that US should stop to decide what other countries must do? because of too much "caring" about other countries' well, US became the target for terrorists... there were rumors that US is planning to attack Iran; I really don't know whether it is true or not, but I'm afraid that that is one of the biggest reasons why Armenia is soooooo "important" for US ...Originally posted by TigranJamharian
"few thousand Russian soldiers stationed in our country" is not small thing... If EU protects our borders with its army, I'll be the first person you will be agree to enter into EU...
Tigran jan, you are living in California, aren't you? That's why everyone knows about Armenia...
I came to South Carolina, my friends came to Texas, Illinois, Washington State... we all had that kind of problem... even one of my proffesors asked me "Isn't Armenia a city in Russia?" 
... and he was sooooooooooooooooo surprised when I told that Armenia is an independent country... are you surprised now?
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