interesting discussion point about the future of Arcakh

[TomServo]

That leaves about two lines.

[Don_Begian]

Without the sovjet Union, there wouldn't be an Armenian Republic.
I know that the communists gave armenian lands to our enemies, they also protected the armenian people against the turks.

Because without their protection, Armenia would have been conquered
by the Turks.

Not because they're so great fighters, but like vermin, they just keep coming and there ain't enough ammo to shoot them all.

[Red Brigade]

Hmm well lets see.



The light brown was Armenia at 1920.All the rest were territories that the Dashnaks gave in the Treaty of Alexandropol.It is by far the biggest treachery that the Dashnaks have done to Armenia.They gave the Grey areas to the Turks in order to fight against the Armenian Bolsheviks(their countrymen).If they didn't signed that treaty Turkey the Red Army and consequently the Armenian Partizans would the right to attack against the Turks and drive them until Van.Because they were still officialy considered Armenian territories according to the Treaty of Sevres.

As i was saying the light brown was Armenia at 1920.The rest territories were given to us by the Soviet Union.They didn't had to give them because we have already had lost them in battlefield, but they gave them to us.Without Soviet Union Armenia would be that light brown and Armenia would be a village.Because a village it was before Soviet Union.Everything valuable that is left today in Armenia was constructed during Soviet Union.Moreover Armenia wouldnt exist without Soviet Union.




Armenia at 1931 after the territorial adjustments given by the Soviet Union.



Conclusion: Armenia is the proof that Capitalism is a failed system.All you have to do is to compare Armenia during the Soviet Union to today's Armenia and the difference is shocking.Just ask an Armenian worker when his life conditions were better.Then or now.

[Anonymouse]

Capitalism is a failed system.

Precisely why the Soviet Union collapsed and capitalism triumphed, and why China is gradually adopting free market measures and economically rising. But it's okay, we don't expect to see you commies take your head out of your ideological anus anyway.

[Red Brigade]

The reasons that the Soviet Union collapsed are both too complicated and long to be analysed.In my personal opinion Soviet Union has been built in the wrong foundations.

Soviet Union was a Stalinist state in which the 1st generation of Human Rights,which were won after the bourgeois French Revolution,were non existant.On the other hand the 2nd Generation of Human Rights,result of the Russian Revolution,were enjoyed by all the workers,something which never took place in the Capitalist countries.

Neverthless even in that Stalinist State the condition of the Armenian workers was by far better than the condition of the workers today, in the rotten Capitalist System which has infested Armenia.

[Don_Begian]

I want to start by apologizing for my possible english mistakes.
Thank U for understanding .


I myself am not a communist, but I will always defend the Sovjet Union against people that talk bad about it.

Sovjet Union was not "the Empire of Evil", I admit that it wasn't a saint regime, but we have a lot thank them. Sovjet Union brought the sovjet people to the 20th century, it thought them, it educated them.

The people leaved well in the 60's,70's and begin 80's.
And it would even last for longer if it wasn't for the "blockadde" of the capitalistic world. They were so aggressive to this new ideology, they putted so much pressure on it, that it hadn't a space to breath for a second.

So of course Sovjet Union had to be an aggressive regime, because only a an aggressive and a military regime could resist those pressures.

That also explains the rise of Stalin, because only a ruthless person as himself could defend Sovjet Union against strange forces. Only a man like him could win the war. We all know that he was an evil and ruthless person, but he was very much needed at that time.

[TomServo]

Communism

Turning the first nation to adopt Christianity as its state religion into an atheistic state once again.

[Thai-Samurai]

my phil teacher here always says communism was such a great system that 50 million of it's citizens had to die.

[Red Brigade]

my phil teacher here always says communism was such a great system that 50 million of it's citizens had to die.

Your phil teacher probably does not even know what communism is.

[Thai-Samurai]

Your phil teacher probably does even know what communism is.

oookaay, slowly walks back out of the room.