President Ahmadinejad and Pan-Turkism

[Sip]

Re: President Ahmadinejad and Pan-Turkism

The basic fact here that many seem to ignore is that Ahamadinejad is very very very very bad news for the region. Very bad.

[oslonor]

Re: President Ahmadinejad and Pan-Turkism

The Azeris are typically Muslim and have a mixed cultural and ethnically heritage of Turkic, Iranian, and Caucasian elements.as result of their behaviour,we cant name them turk.they are unable to defend their country,they are quietly gormless people and they are stupidly unaware of turkish nationalism.because of them,some foreigners make fun of turkish nation

# Are Azeris Persians or Kurds?: The Azeri nationalist claim that Azeris are Persians or Medes (kurds) but speak Turkish language. They also claim that they originate from Medes. The reason is that they want to carry out their policies under the banner of Pan-Iranism. There are two problems with this theory. First the Azeris do not look like Persians or Kurds. Secondly, the seljuck Turks who are the ancestors of Azeris ruled over the whole Persia. Why the rest of Iran not speaking Azeri language if they impose it on Persia? Why Kurds are not speaking Azeri language? The remnants of Talish persian speaking minority in Azerbaijan is precisely the proof that Seljuk Turks did not impose Azeri language. Of course those who had Azeri language as their native language spoke Azeri not because it was imposed, but because it was their native language. Not only Seljuk Turks did not impose Azeri language but they even adopted Persian language is the language of the Elite of Seljuks.

# Are Turks Mongols?: Azeris claim that Turks look like Mongols similar to Uzbeks. Azeris are "Caucasian" whatever that means. Therefore Azeris are not really turks. Actually some mongolian tribes have adopted the turkish language but in reality ethnically they are not turks. Mongols are Mongols and they are not Turks. The real turks are the Azeris. This is even clear in central asia. The Kazaks are the union of the Turk and Mongol tribes, who lived on the territory of the modern Kazakhstan approximately in the first century B.C., were the forebears of Kazakhs. This clearly shows that Mongols are not really turks.

# Pan-Turkism and Russians: Actually the whole fraud and falsifications about the nature of Azeri Turks were invented in the Soviet Union in 1930's under Stalin. The reason is Soviet Union feared Pan-Turkism and invented a separate identity for each ethnic group who spoke Turkish in Caucaus and central asia. Azeris became "Iranian" and central asians became sogdians and baktrians. This propoganda was adopted by some Azeris in Iran such as Kasravi and promoted in Iran. All of the propoganda were lies. Azeris are Turks. Today Azeri Turk ruling elite is using this propoganda to present itself with the label of "Iranian" tribe and continue the plunder of resources from the natives of Iran.

[EMRE]

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So Azerbaijan isn't a Turkic country? Interesting.

The Azeris are typically Muslim and have a mixed cultural and ethnically heritage of Turkic, Iranian, and Caucasian elements.as result of their behaviour,we cant name them turk.they are unable to defend their country,they are quietly gormless people and they are stupidly unaware of turkish nationalism.because of them,some foreigners make fun of turkish nation

[TomServo]

Re: President Ahmadinejad and Pan-Turkism

So Azerbaijan isn't a Turkic country? Interesting.

[EMRE]

Re: President Ahmadinejad and Pan-Turkism

I do not know if you want to play dumb or you are really very dumb. But Pan-Turkism is a danger that should be considered both by Armenians and Non-Pan Turkist forces in Iran.

this sign can only be known in turkey,azeris(not tukic nation)cant know what does it mean.only know their media.the president is not azeri..

[Thai-Samurai]

Re: President Ahmadinejad and Pan-Turkism

so unimportant they'd rather bet on camel xxxxs.

[ARK]

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Artsakh took the words right out of my mouth, but honestly I’ve never been interested to know if he is or not, and I’ve never heard anybody talk about it. But since u insist, yesterday I searched in some Persian sites to find out sth. about it but found nothing , today at university, I addressed the question to around 15 of my classmates(although I knew I’d look silly!), but none of them knew the answer and surprisingly all of them asked me “why?” in a strange tone! However I knew that. You see how unimportant is the issue for Iranians.

[Anonymouse]

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You must be reading too much conspicracy theories. Are you trying to say Mr. Ahmadinejad is a member of Illumaniti?!!!!!

The explanation is very simple. Iran is not US and this has nothing to do with that. In Azerbaijan it means grey wolves and Pan-Turkism. That is all. It has nothing to do with illumaniti. It means Pan-Turkism. Azeri Turks do not know anything about Illumaniti!!!!

First of all, you must be reading too much into Pan Turkism. Stop trying to imply that this sign means something other than what it means. The sign is as old as many religions and has traveled through time and esoteric knowledge and for example can be found in both Masonic texts as well as Jewish mysticism. And if you clicked on the actual link you could see more than just Americans with the sign. "Pan-Turkism" is nothing more than the myths created in the 19th century after the Turks were exposed to European ideas such as nationalism. Second, what does that have anything to do with conspiracy theories? Because one reads about them and is well rounded that taints someone or their argument? Don't be obtuse. I never suggested Ahmadinejad is a member of Illumaniti. He may well be, who knows, right? I don't claim to know, do you? I stated that conspiracy theorists would immediately implicate him as such, a big difference for anyone versed in reading comprehension.

[Thai-Samurai]

Re: President Ahmadinejad and Pan-Turkism

your a danger to healthy people

[oslonor]

Re: President Ahmadinejad and Pan-Turkism

looks like illuminati had been founded by pan-turkist azeris

I do not know if you want to play dumb or you are really very dumb. But Pan-Turkism is a danger that should be considered both by Armenians and Non-Pan Turkist forces in Iran.