Liberation of Western Armenia

[Kanki]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

Are you a turk?

No, but I have been Turkey for 11 years.2 years ago I left there And I know Turks,Kurds and Turkish Armenians including Hrant Dink, Greeks etc..Also I can speak Turkish,Japanish and Spanish well

[skhara]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

Turks are right to attack North Iraq! PKK is terror organization and more dangerious tahn IRA and ETA! Also they claim to set up Kurdistan in your WESTERN ARMENIA!! Including Kars,Erzurum,Van.... Kurds are enemy for Armenians too! Also DTP is kurdish politic party which supports kurdish rebels! Their president Ahmet Turt's grandfather killed armenians

Are you a turk?

[Kanki]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

Turks are right to attack North Iraq! PKK is terror organization and more dangerious tahn IRA and ETA! Also they claim to set up Kurdistan in your WESTERN ARMENIA!! Including Kars,Erzurum,Van.... Kurds are enemy for Armenians too! Also DTP is kurdish politic party which supports kurdish rebels! Their president Ahmet Turt's grandfather killed armenians

[skhara]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

Turds - Kurds

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7055004.stm

Dozens die in Turkey border clash
An ambulance carries injured Turkish soldiers following a clash with Kurdish rebels
The attack on Turkish troops was one of the deadliest for some time
At least 12 Turkish soldiers have been killed following an ambush by Kurdish rebels near the Iraqi border - with 32 rebels also killed, officials say.

[Monastras]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

Western Armenia will be liberated when the geo-political situation in the world changes. Let me put it this way, even if the Armenians don't care about their lands in Turkey, the Greeks sure as hell haven't forgotten about theirs. When the time is right, the Greeks won't pass up the opporunity, and I'm sure the Armenians will play a part in that plan, and attack from the other side. With an internal kurdish uprising, and Syrian forces attacking from the south (in pursuit of the realization of their greater syria), that's when the Armenian question will be solved. and you know what, it'll be the Armenians who live in armenia that'll be doing the fighting, and not you know who.

What a nice plan you have made. well done. I do not know where do you live but I would advise you make a trip to Turkey and spend a few days there and tell us is it realy likely that this might happen in a few century time. This tells us exactly why armenian people lost their homeland in Turkey for ever.

[Monastras]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

Yeah, I think it would be smart for the Kurds to drag Turkey into N Iraq. This will not only make it easier for them to fight on their turf, but will probably piss off enough Kurds to swell the numbers for PKK and form other militant organizations.

I am sorry But Turkish army has been In N Iraq many times. It has also got sizeble manpower there for the last decade. You will see PKK can not swell as the army In Iraq or any body can resist as they did not in the past. I think the only way to fight effectively against PKK or terrorist organisation is to spread battle where they are logisticly supplied and garsp the areas until they are sent to heaven.
We know some people will be happy if Turks are in trouble. I am afraid they are wrong

[karoaper]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

Eshi qurag is as eshi qurag does, ehh Kanki. Thinking for an idiot like you is harmful for health. FORGET IT!

[Kanki]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

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The out-come of the Artsakh issue

The strength of the Armenian economy

The strength of the Armenian military

Your economy and military can not equal with Turkish millitary and economy!

[The strength and ideological conviction of the Armenian Diaspora

Maybe... there is many Turkish lobbies in Germany,Belgium,Netherlands etc...

[Whether or not Armenia develops and nuclear bomb

Turkey has got 7 nuclear bomb! Don't think this plan!

[Superpower interests within the region

Superpower needs Turkey as using a bridge! And Turkey has no petrol! both of them NATO country!

[Strong Armenian-Iranians relations

Iran never help you! They are muslim and Turkey muslim too also Turkish-Iranian relations are very good. Turkey supports Iran's politics...Forget it!

[Strong Armenian-Russian relations

Racism generalizes in Russian young people! Forget it! Russian-Turkish relations are good, they make trade !

[Armenian-Kurdish relations

hehehe Kurdish people has got no state, no goverment! no military! and they are only 17 milions but Turkish people 67 milions...Lets include other Turkish countries Kazakhistan,Turkmenistan,Uzmekistan,Azerbejian etc many population! Forget!

[Armenian-Arab relations

Give example how it can be!!!! They are muslim also they never struggle
Armenian-Turk wars! Evens so, they can struggle Iraq! FORGET THIS IDEA!

[Armenian-EU relations

Only France,Switzerland etc... supports armenia!but many EU countries in NATO! They never fight with a Nato country(Turkey)... Forget it! also EU countries make trade with Turkey they can think only their economy! FORGET IT!

[Turkey's internal problems - social and economic

Turkey has got no economical problems!! Only they have TERROR problem from some of the Kurdish people...Also every Kurd don't support PKK!
That social problem not very important! Turkish army is powerful and too many young people there!

[Turkey's external problems - political and military

Turkey has powerful military! no problem in Military! Don't make hooey!

[Unexpected "natural" disasters

maybe you must pray god to come unexpected diasters to Turkish people

[skhara]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

"IN THE QANDIL MOUNTAINS, Iraq (AP) — A Kurdish rebel commander has warned Turkey it would encounter tough resistance and a dragged-out, Vietnam-style conflict, if it launched a large-scale offensive against the Kurdish rebels in northern Iraq."

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/i...s_N.htm?csp=34

Yeah, I think it would be smart for the Kurds to drag Turkey into N Iraq. This will not only make it easier for them to fight on their turf, but will probably piss off enough Kurds to swell the numbers for PKK and form other militant organizations.

[skhara]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

In my opinion, Kurds do deserve a nation of their own. And them being of Iranian decent means nothing. The English are of Germanic decent, Bosnian Muslims are of Serbian decent, Cypriots are of Greek decent, etc... If a people have a national identity, regardless of its origins or language, than they deserve a nation. A Kurdish state can potentially act as a future buffer against Arabs, Turks and Iranians. A Kurdish state will hinder the dominance of another state in the region. The only problem that needs to be solved with them is land partition, how to divide up the lands of eastern Anatolia between Armenians and Kurds.

I like your thinking. If the turkish state is too collapse, it is Kurds who would play a major part in it. I suppose when the time is right, Armenian leadership would have to engage Kurds and find some kind of agreement, otherwise Armenians will end up in a war with Kurds.