Liberation of Western Armenia

[Vahram]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

I'm a Beirutzi

So is Monte

Even with all that support the baboon had, Soviet Army, weapons of all types, we had muskets with 4 Armo's we still kicked arse! We already have Artsakh, next step is Ararat!

[Vahram]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

After this there is another map!

[Vrej1915]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

http://www.armenews.com/article.php3?id_article=87519

[Vrej1915]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

http://hetq.am/eng/articles/1158/

[Vrej1915]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

http://www.reporter.am/index.cfm?objectid=18675F69-9F1D-11DF-9AD00003FF3452C2

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

In Beirut

Idiots at work. They should stick to sniffing their spray paint cans.

[TomServo]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

"Ի~նչ եղկելի «պայմանադրական սուտ» մըն է Քաղաքականութիւնը: Ի~նչ յիմար են մարդիկ: Ի՞նչ է պատերազմը, ի՞նչ է պետութիւնը, ի՞նչ է յեղափոխութիւնը: Ինչո՞ւ քանի մը հոգիներ տառապին յեղափոխելով, ուրիշներ տառապին՝ զանոնք զսպելու համար. ինչո՞ւ այս ինչ ազգին պատկանող երիտասարդներ տանջուին՝ սպաննելու համար այն ինչ ազգէն ուրիշ տանջուող երիտասարդներ. ո՞վ է իրաւունք տուեր դասակարգ մը մարդոց՝ ըսելու թէ հողի այս պատառը «իրենց»ն է եւ այն պատառը «ուրիշներուն»: Ո՞վ է տուեր սահմանները. ա~հ, յիմա~ր մարդիկ որոնք կեանքին քովէն կ՛անցնին անտարբեր՝ առանց զայն ապրիլ գիտնալու, եւ փոխանակ պարզելու՝ կը խճողեն միտքերը, Երազը Երկունքի կը վերածեն եւ կ՛ուզեն անպատճառ որ «Արցունքի ծովեր»ը «Արցունքի Լիճ»ի վերածուին:"

Բարսեղ Շահպազ (1883-1915)

"What a pathetic "situational lie" Politics is! How idiotic people are! What is war, what is the state, what is revolution? Why should a few people suffer to revolutionize, and others suffer to restrain them? Why should the youth of some nation be tormented, to kill tormented youth of some other nation? Who has given the right to a class of people to say that this piece of land is "theirs", or that piece of land is "others’ ". Who has given borders? Ahh, idiotic people who pass by life ignorantly, without knowing how to live it, and instead of simplifying it, complicate things, change the Dream into [childbirth] Pain, and would like the "Seas of tears" to become "lakes of tears" at all costs."

Parsegh Shahbaz (1883-1915)

[Mher]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

Armenian Official Suggests Renaming Country
01.17.14

YEREVAN (Arka)—Armenia’s education and science minister Armen Ashotyan proposed onFriday that the official name of the country – the Republic of Armenia – be changed to the Republic of Eastern Armenia.

Historically, Armenia has been divided into Eastern and Western Armenia, Eastern Armenia being part of the Persian Empire until the beginning of the 19th century, before it became part of the Russian Empire. Part of Eastern Armenia later became the First Republic for two short years before it was seized by the Bolsheviks to become the Soviet Armenian Republic. In 1991, it was proclaimed as the independent Republic of Armenia.

Western Armenia is now part of Turkey. Its population was annihilated by the government of Turkey in 1915-1923 in the first genocide of the last century. Ashotyan’s argument for his proposed name change is to convey the reality of the Armenian nation: that Armenia is not whole without Western Armenia.

The Armenian Revolutionary Federation’s Political Affairs Director Giro Manoyan responded to Ashotyan’s suggestion in an open letter. In his response, Manoyan made a suggestion of his own, saying, “If Mr. Ashotyan would like to pursue ‘justice and self-determination’ for the Armenian nation, then – before turning to the constitution and the Republic’s declaration of independence – Mr. Ashotyan and the Republican Party can start by rescinding the Armenian government’s ratification of the Armenian-Turkish protocols, by defining the official border between Armenia and Turkey to be the true border set by U.S. President Woodrow Wilson, and by adopting the realization of that border as a government responsibility, among other tangible, more effective measures.”

Ashotyan, who is deputy chairman of the ruling Republican Party of Armenia, first came out with this proposal in 2005.

http://asbarez.com/118595/armenian-official-suggests-renaming-country/

[Artashes]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

Armenian Official Suggests Renaming Country
01.17.14

YEREVAN (Arka)—Armenia’s education and science minister Armen Ashotyan proposed onFriday that the official name of the country – the Republic of Armenia – be changed to the Republic of Eastern Armenia.

Historically, Armenia has been divided into Eastern and Western Armenia, Eastern Armenia being part of the Persian Empire until the beginning of the 19th century, before it became part of the Russian Empire. Part of Eastern Armenia later became the First Republic for two short years before it was seized by the Bolsheviks to become the Soviet Armenian Republic. In 1991, it was proclaimed as the independent Republic of Armenia.

Western Armenia is now part of Turkey. Its population was annihilated by the government of Turkey in 1915-1923 in the first genocide of the last century. Ashotyan’s argument for his proposed name change is to convey the reality of the Armenian nation: that Armenia is not whole without Western Armenia.

The Armenian Revolutionary Federation’s Political Affairs Director Giro Manoyan responded to Ashotyan’s suggestion in an open letter. In his response, Manoyan made a suggestion of his own, saying, “If Mr. Ashotyan would like to pursue ‘justice and self-determination’ for the Armenian nation, then – before turning to the constitution and the Republic’s declaration of independence – Mr. Ashotyan and the Republican Party can start by rescinding the Armenian government’s ratification of the Armenian-Turkish protocols, by defining the official border between Armenia and Turkey to be the true border set by U.S. President Woodrow Wilson, and by adopting the realization of that border as a government responsibility, among other tangible, more effective measures.”

Ashotyan, who is deputy chairman of the ruling Republican Party of Armenia, first came out with this proposal in 2005.

http://asbarez.com/118595/armenian-o...aming-country/

---------- It's population was annihilated -----------
Should read ... And continues to be a annihilated ...
Should read ... And the attempted total annihilation CONTINUES --- BY --- the continued attempt of the turk govt to errase the memory of the annihilation .. (genocide).
Personally I do think a national statement should be made on this subject (recognition).
Unfortunately, looking at this forum & how are various opinions are all over the place, it's hard for me to see us coming together on ??? well basically anything.
Grass roots doers & accomplishers on an individual basis tat are positive thinkers, is all the hope I can see.
Artashes

[bell-the-cat]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

Armenian Official Suggests Renaming Country
01.17.14

YEREVAN (Arka)—Armenia’s education and science minister Armen Ashotyan proposed onFriday that the official name of the country – the Republic of Armenia – be changed to the Republic of Eastern Armenia.

Maybe "Putinistan" would be better (inspired by the suggestions that Gyumri should be renamed Putingrad).