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The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

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  • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

    Originally posted by zeytuntsi View Post
    Artsakh,
    Keep it cool and please don't sink to his level. Personally I think that his trip to Armenia is 100% BS and he's in the US. Also, you know that he's 100% bravado and hot air and won't dare to show up. Just let it go.
    You are 100% right, ughaki greluts qefes mikitch laver.

    I too doubt that he's in Armenia. I doubt he even gets out of his house.

    In this hullucinations and delusions, he has also had contacts with "high ranking officials of Armenia and Karabakh." in his delusions, he was also present when the ARF "Scholded pavel manukyan".

    He's too busy composing poetry and literature all day long. What else could be said about the mental state of such an individual? He is a sick individual no better than that Ara Baliozian.

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    • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

      Originally posted by Artsakh View Post
      Anon,

      Armenian is the one who has continuously resorted to insults and name-calling, even after I told that it is quite silly to act tough over the internet.

      He has called me a "street pornik", a "Street lakot", etc...

      Moreover, he is the one who threatened to "punch my face in regardless of consequences".

      Well, now I'm taking him up on his offer.
      Armenian, you, Siamanto (when he was here), have all been warned. I don't care. If you guys have beef, go to the Ankap thread and insult there. That thread is where we are lighter on the rules and you can vent there.

      But here, please, all sides, just try and maintain some civility.

      Mi bur hye enk, eli irar glukh enk utum. Hayastanum el nuyna.
      Achkerov kute.

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      • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

        I thought he was calling you pokhtscayin porniki lakot. To be honest you sounded like one and he knew who you are. But this thread has nothing to do with that, so why don’t you take crusader’s and anon’s advise.

        Originally posted by Artsakh View Post
        Anon,

        Armenian is the one who has continuously resorted to insults and name-calling, even after I told that it is quite silly to act tough over the internet.

        He has called me a "street pornik", a "Street lakot", etc...

        Moreover, he is the one who threatened to "punch my face in regardless of consequences".

        Well, now I'm taking him up on his offer.

        Personally I think you are other psycho member’s twin sister and have been abused in the childhood and you are …. and global worming is ….and…vor tat@t xxx unenar …… Is this have any relevance to this thread? Ter qez astvats .
        Originally posted by zeytuntsi View Post
        Artsakh,
        Keep it cool and please don't sink to his level. Personally I think that his trip to Armenia is 100% BS and he's in the US. Also, you know that he's 100% bravado and hot air and won't dare to show up. Just let it go.

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        • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

          Originally posted by aray View Post

          Personally I think you are other psycho member’s twin sister and have been abused in the childhood and you are …. and global worming is ….and…vor tat@t xxx unenar …… Is this have any relevance to this thread? Ter qez astvats .
          Personally I think you are 110% right. "They" are the same and "their" 'goal' is to incite tensions and close the thread. However, the moderator is more vigilant than anyone else.
          Just ignore the 'provocateurs'.

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          • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

            Originally posted by aray View Post
            I thought he was calling you pokhtscayin porniki lakot. To be honest you sounded like one and he knew who you are. But this thread has nothing to do with that, so why don’t you take crusader’s and anon’s advise.
            I see that you are a little slow up there, so I'll help you out. "Armenian" was the one who began with the name calling and insults. I told him to drop it, and talk in a civilized manner. When the thick-headed 40 year-old-virigin was unable to take my advice, i resorted to speaking to him in his own language. DO u understand now?

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            • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

              Artsakh, I have warned you repeatedly to buck up and you are continuing to harass, insult and in the other thread engage in racist remarks. Remember we permit open discussions of race, but you've gone too far, you've insulted, and you've threatened people. You need to cool down. This is my last warning to you. If you make one more insult of any nature, you are banned. And remember, I am not interested in who started what insults when. I have already banned Armenian and Siamanto before and warned everyone else. Now no one can claim they didn't know.
              Last edited by Anonymouse; 07-27-2008, 07:29 AM.
              Achkerov kute.

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              • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

                Anybody care to comment on all the lies and disinformation being spread around by the media?

                Chavez bought military equipment
                Chavez bought nothing.
                Chavez wants Russian bases in his country.
                Chavez denies.
                Cuba will host Russian nuclear bombers
                Cuba says nothing of the sort has been discussed

                ???????????????????????????????

                What's up?

                Lies, Weapons Against Chavez

                Madrid, Jul 26 (Prensa Latina) Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has recently
                finished his European tour, which was the target of an adverse media
                campaign that used lies and manipulation of reality as favorite weapons.

                They launched 13 attacks and lies during Chavez' tour of Russia, Belarus,
                Portugal and Spain, said Venezuelan Foreign Minister Nicolas Maduro during
                an exchange with a group of journalists in La Moncloa, the Spanish
                government's headquarters, in Madrid.

                They lie because the tour hurts someone, said the minister, before Chavez
                and Spanish Head of State Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero announced important
                agreements with this European country, especially in energy.

                The MINCI (Venezuelan Information Ministry) had previously issued an
                official communique to deny a wave of false press releases about Caracas
                alleged buys of weapons for around $30 billion from Russia.

                That plot was spread massively by international media and another false news
                was spread later on the Internet, about Venezuela's hypothetical willingness
                to establish a Russian military base in its territory.

                To the Venezuelan authorities, it was clear that despite official denials
                and clarifications, this large display of lies would be used to deceive
                Venezuelans and as an extra tool for the constant imperialist campaign
                developed against our motherland.

                In the case of Spain, the last country in Chavez' European tour, the largest
                media have been leading a misinformation campaign since long time ago,
                contrary to the nice atmosphere that marked his brief stay in Spanish land.

                The Venezuelan President eased, in less than 10 hours, the tense atmosphere
                that had been created about the state of relations with this European
                country, regarding his peronal relations with King Juan Carlos and important
                economic and political issues.

                The visit was marked by an agreement for Venezuelan oil supply to Spain in
                favorable conditions, interest in the presence of Spanish companies in the
                Orinoco Strip, and a proposal for Latin America and Europe to begin talks
                about the European Immigration Directive.

                We have come to lend a hand, to work together with Spain to face up to the
                problems and look for paths to progress and integration, President Chavez
                told press in la Moncloa.

                It was really an excellent visit, Information Minister Andres Izarra told
                Prensa Latina.

                iom abo vc

                PL-9

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                • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

                  Originally posted by Artsakh View Post
                  I too doubt that............
                  Hello, Artsakh.

                  I am Russian, I am an ethnic Russian, and can tell you that these type of discussions (personal attacks I mean) take place and among Russian nationalists too. It happens because any issue that has anything to do with your nation is pretty sensitive, so the conversation can get very emotional...

                  However....

                  I have no idea why you began to attack Armenian, but I think it would be better if you conduct that conversation in Armenian or in private, otherwise it looks like you are trying to put up a public show just to derail this thread.

                  NP

                  Last edited by North Pole; 07-28-2008, 10:23 AM.

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                  • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

                    1 week ago:




                    Russia's Prime Minister Vladimir Putin (L) and Vagit Alekperov, president of Russia's second largest oil producer LUKOIL, meet at Novo-Ogaryovo just outside Moscow July 18, 2008.



                    Today

                    28/ 07/ 2008


                    Russia's LUKOIL buys Turkey's Akpet for $500 mln

                    By Robin Paxton and Tolgahan Ozkan

                    MOSCOW/ISTANBUL, July 28 (Reuters) - Russian oil major LUKOIL (LKOH.MM: Quote, Profile, Research) agreed to buy Turkish fuel distributor Akpet for $500 million on Monday, securing 5 percent of Turkey's oil product retail market as it continues its downstream expansion.
                    LUKOIL, Russia's second-largest oil producer, plans to double its Turkish market share to 10 percent within a decade after acquiring eight oil product terminals with total capacity of 300,000 cubic metres, company president Vagit Alekperov said.

                    "LUKOIL bought Akpet for a little bit more than $500 million," Alekperov told a news conference in Istanbul after signing the deal with Akpet's owners.
                    LUKOIL last month took its first major step into the western European refining business with the $2.1 billion purchase of a 49 percent stake in Italian refiner ERG SpA's (ERG.MI: Quote, Profile, Research) Isab di Priolo refinery on Sicily.
                    The Russian company, owned 20 percent by U.S. oil major ConocoPhillips (COP.N: Quote, Profile, Research), plans to invest $25 billion in refining and retail over the next decade, excluding acquisitions. Its acquisition of Akpet, which operates 693 gas filling stations in Turkey, also gives LUKOIL control of five liquefied natural gas (LNG) storage tanks with total capacity of 7,650 cubic metres.



                    Russia's LUKoil buys Turkish oil retailer
                    MOSCOW, July 28 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's second largest oil producer LUKoil has bought 100% in Turkish oil product retailer Akpet, which has a 5% market share, the company said on Monday.

                    MOSCOW, July 28 (RIA Novosti) - Russia's second largest oil producer LUKoil has bought 100% in Turkish oil product retailer Akpet, which has a 5% market share, the company said on Monday. LUKoil said the acquisition gives it access to...



                    LUKoil (RTS:LKOH LSE: LKOD NASDAQ: LUKOY) (Russian: ЛУКойл; pronounced /lukɔɪl/) is Russia's largest oil company and its largest producer of oil. In 2006, it produced 95.2 million metric tons of oil.
                    Its international upstream subsidiary is called LUKOIL Overseas Holding. Headquartered in Moscow, LUKOIL is the second largest public company (next to ExxonMobil) in terms of proven oil and gas reserves (ca. 20 bn boe by SPE standards; some 1.3% of global oil reserves).
                    LUKoil's North American Headquarters are in East Meadow, New York, USA.

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                    • Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

                      Geopolitics and Terrorism in North Caucasus


                      Transcaucasia (South Caucasus) is a major conflict zone in the post-Soviet space. Russia's inaction in the Caucasus, especially in the 1900ies, left a vacuum of influence in the region, and the void was promptly filled by the West. The US established a strategic foothold in Georgia, and the same can be expected to happen in Azerbaijan. Efforts are being made continuously to alter the geopolitical orientation of Armenia.

                      Under the circumstances, the unrecognized Republics - Abkhazia, Karabakh, and South Ossetia - became Russia's natural allies. Georgia led by Saakashvili escalates the tensions in the zones of the Georgian-Abkhazian and Georgian-Ossetian conflicts in line with the policy pursued by Washington. The Russian Foreign Ministry stated on July 9 that the situation has deteriorated considerably.


                      If NATO Membership Action Plans are enacted by Georgia and Ukraine in December, 2008, Russia will find itself in an even more difficult situation in North Caucasus. The move will ensure the strategic containment of Russia in the southern direction, and the transfer of conflicts from South to North Caucasus will substantially weaken Russia's geopolitical potential.

                      North Caucasus is the most vulnerable of Russian territories watched closely by Russia's geopolitical rivals. It is particularly alarming that the Russian political and academic communities tend to underestimate the chances of a new war in the Caucasus.

                      The situation in the region is complicated due to a range of conflictogenic factors of socioeconomic, political, demographic, migration-related, ethnic, and religious nature. Exterior forces exploit the ongoing conflicts and fuel them in their own interests. Various NGOs, foundations, research centers, and agencies dispensing "humanitarian" grants function as a multi-level monitoring network which, at a certain moment, can be used to instigate an outbreak of rapidly intensifying controlled chaos. Centers of radical Islam, which in many cases are controlled from abroad, and illegal ethnic armed formations serve the same purpose.

                      The Russian federal center does not have a sufficiently firm grip on North Caucasus as demonstrated by the seasonal surge of the activity of illegal armed formations in the region in 2008. The situation is particularly insecure in Dagestan, Chechnya, Ingushetia, the Kabardino-Balkar Republic, and, less so, in the Karachay-Cherkess Republic. Terrorist acts are committed frequently in both urban areas and remote mountainous regions where the presence of the authority is hardly felt at all.

                      Even though, as FSB Director A. Bortnikov said at the July 3 meeting of the National Anti-Terrorist Committee, the activity of 80 leaders and active members of illegal armed formations was terminated, over 30 terrorist acts were prevented, and 130 explosive devices, some 900 kg of explosives, and 600 firearms have been confiscated in 2008, the Southern Federal District remains the epicenter of terrorist activity. At least 80% of terrorism-related crimes committed in Russia are perpetrated in the region.

                      Attacks on servicemen of law-enforcement agencies continue and civilians are also killed in Chechnya, Ingushetia, and Dagestan. The FSB Director said that bandits seek to escalate the situation and to demonstrate their potential to their foreign sponsors. He admitted that terrorist organizations succeed in recruiting new members, mainly young people influenced by the propaganda of religious and political extremism.

                      Our survey of the terrorist acts in June-July, 2008 confirms the conclusions drawn by the FSB Director.

                      Dagestan

                      Unknown gunmen opened fire on the army train security in Khasavyurt on June 2, killing one serviceman and injuring another.

                      Three members of an illegal armed formation were killed in Dagestan during a security sweep on June 7. One of those killed was Movsar Sharipov, a 16-year-old wrestling champion of the south of Russia who had no criminal record and was not known to have ties with illegal armed formations. His parents were shocked when they learned that their son had been a member of the gang of Salman Makhtiev, which operated in the Khasavyurt region.

                      In Makhachkala, the Supreme Court of Dagestan sentenced Zalimkhan Musaev, a local resident, to 14 years in a high security prison. Last year he organized a criminal group of three teenagers with the purpose of killing local policemen. The juvenile criminals assassinated two high-ranking police officers in October, 2007. The members of the group were blocked and killed when they put up resistance.

                      Head of the city police department M. Aliev was shot point-blank and killed in his car in downtown Buynaksk on June 23. Earlier, a traffic police patrol came under automatic gunfire near the city of Dagestanskie Ogni. Terrorists made an attempt to blow up the vehicle of the 102th Interior Troops Brigade carrying servicemen on a highway linking Gubden and Urma. A police sergeant and a local resident were killed when fire was opened on a checkpoint in the Suleiman-Stal district.

                      The counter-terrorist operation regime was declared in the city of Khasavyurt and the Khasavyurt region on July 7. A group of 11 individuals suspected of terrorism and attacks on servicemen of law-enforcement agencies were arrested, an illegal explosives factory was found, and 16 bombs, 4 RPG-26 grenade launchers, 9 RPG-7 grenades, 11 firearms, 22 grenades, and over 5,000 rounds of ammunition were confiscated as a result of the operation.

                      Chechnya

                      Attacks on federal forces continue in the region. On June 2, an army copter came under fire and a soldier was injured when a group of servicemen was landing in the Vedeno district. Guerillas blew up an armored personnel carrier and opened fire on a border guard convoy killing three soldiers and injuring five.

                      On June 6, Head of Sunzha Police Department Shamil Kutsaev was injured and police major Idriz Abdullev was killed in Chechnya. Ten people, six of them policemen, were injured by a blast in a cafe in Grozny. In June, guerillas temporarily seized the Benoy-Vedeno village in the Nozhay-Yurtovsky district.

                      Four special forces officers were killed between the Dargo and Zhani-Vedeno villages on a mission in the mountains of the Vedeno district while searching for a gang responsible for assassinations of policemen.

                      Ingushetia

                      A police officer was injured when fire was opened on a checkpoint in the Malgobek district of Ingushetia. On June 2, unknown gunmen fired on a police checkpoint in the Nazran district. Police captain Rustam Azhigov and his relative Islam Pugoev came under fire in a car on June 16. It was a fifth attack on police officers in 24 hours. On June 19, machine guns and grenade launchers fired on the residence of the Kursaev brothers who worked for the police department and narcotics control service of the Nazran district. The residence of a police officer also came under machinegun and grenade fire in Karabulak early in the morning on June 5. A series of audacious attacks were reported on June 5-6. Guerillas burned down the residence of Vice Prime Minister B. Aushev responsible for the law enforcement agencies in the Republic, fired on two police convoys, and shot dead the head of a department of the Republic's Administration for Combating Organized Crime. Most of the attacks took place in broad daylight. Two local policemen and two federal servicemen were killed and four police officers were injured as a result.

                      On July 8, an armed group attacked the Muzhichi village and a checkpoint of the Internal Troops located on the outskirts of the Nesterovskaya village. A policeman, a rural high school military training teacher, and a former police officer were killed by the guerillas. After the attack, the bandits also opened fire on the police checkpoint near the Nesterovskaya village.

                      The Kabardino-Balkar Republic

                      In June, unknown gunmen attacked the apartment with three policemen, a narcotics control police officer, and two local residents in the Elbrus region, injuring all the people. On July 7, also in the Elbrus region, two traffic police officers were injured by a blast which destroyed their car at the parking lot of the Cheget hotel. On June 4, an attempt was made to blow up a police car near the Elbrus village. Three attacks on officers of law enforcement agencies were reported in June.

                      Early in the morning on July 8, three policemen were killed during an attack on a police patrol. The attack was launched by Aslan Karatsukov (age: 34) and Auladin Bakaev (age: 31) from the Dugulubgey village and Ramazan Bairami (age: 25) from the Psychokh village. All the three were under police surveillance as Wahhabis. A guerilla killed by the police on the outskirts of Nalchik - Boris Zholabov from Tyrnauz (age: 23) - was also a member of the Yarmuk, a Wahhabi Jamaat.

                      The Karachay-Cherkess Republic

                      Murat Akbaev, a businessman and a member of the Republic's parliament and the younger brother of one of the 16 people sentenced for involvement in the notorious murder of 7 residents of the Karachay-Cherkess Republic, was killed in Cherkessk on June 1. The seven men, including parliamentarian R. Bogatyrev, were murdered in 2004 at the countyhouse owned by parliamentarian A. Kaitov.

                      Conclusions

                      The forces of the religious and political extremism in Russia's North Caucasus have not been routed. Illegal armed formations continue to launch serious attacks and to destabilize the situation in the region. So far, the law enforcement agencies' efforts to suppress the activity of terrorist groups have not yielded the desired result.

                      Police measures alone cannot remedy the situation which has profound socioeconomic roots. An improvement can be achieved only by eliminating fundamental causes of conflicts such as widespread corruption, and by the reintegration of the younger people into a healthier socioeconomic environment. Only this approach - and nothing else - can substantially reduce the influence of exterior forces in North Caucasus.


                      Source: http://www.iras.ir/English/Default_v...rth%20Caucasus
                      Last edited by Lucin; 07-28-2008, 10:47 AM.

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