The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

[gmd]

Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

Some people think they have freedom (without recognizing it as an illusion) but instead all they have is poverty and servitude. If you are going to serve at least do it on a full stomache.

[ZORAVAR]

Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

Bailing out countries. What a difference:

The Russian government is bailing out friendly ex-Soviet nations left and right.
Just in the last few weks we learned about:

Kyrgyzstan...$2.2 billion
Kazakhstan..$3.0 billion
Uzbekistan...$1.3 billion
Armenia…....$500 million
Tajikistan (not disclosed yet)

I guess it pays out to have good relations with Moscow.

On the other hand, what are the other ex-Soviet nations getting? I am talking about the ones that are not friendly with the Russians, the ones that have governments who sold (or are selling) their souls to NATO...

Find below an article that puts things in perspective.

ZORAVAR

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Financial forecast for Eastern Europe following bailout failure

The European Union has rejected a 190 billion euro bailout for Central and Eastern European members in deep economic crises. Now the prospects for Eastern Europe are gloomy at best.

An economic storm has hit the region, leaving national economies shaking to the core. The Baltic States will find it hardest to recover, with their hopes for help from their western neighbours fading.

"The European Union can provide credits but now when even in Western Europe credits are hard to obtain, the problems for these countries will be even greater,” says Dmitry Babich, Editor-in-Chief of Russia’s Profil Magazine.

Looking at the current trends, RT has its own predictions over what will happen in the coming months:

LATVIA

Latvia is facing a true financial drought with foreign investments almost evaporating.

All of its rates are down, according to the Standard & Poor’s ratings agency. Its GDP dropped by more than 10 per cent in late 2008 – the worst result among all 27 members of the EU.

The country is seeking help from the International Monetary Fund, but many doubt it'll happen any time soon, as Latvia's credit rating has been cut to ‘junk’ status.

The country's government resigned about a week ago, which further complicates the situation.

“They tried to tie their economies to the EU and to lessen the amount of economic contacts with Russia to a minimum. When the economic crisis hit, instead of having two supports, they had just one,” Babich adds.

LITHUANIA & ESTONIA

Standard & Poor’s is also set to downgrade the ratings of Latvia's sister republics Lithuania and Estonia, which means the storm has affected them almost as much.

“If the EU really wanted to help – it would help. That needs a political will. But as far as it hasn't happened yet – the EU left the Baltic States on their own,” says Aleksandr Razuvaev, SobinBank analytical department’s deputy head.

UKRAINE

This intemperate crisis seems to be moving further inland with another obvious epicenter found in Ukraine which is not a EU member.

Ukraine's economy is lying in ruins. The country's GDP slumped by 20 per cent year-on-year in January, badly affecting many people.

Almost a million unemployed have already been officially registered, and their number is expected to increase five-fold by the end of the year.

Ukraine is close to default. Its rating is now the lowest in Europe and matches the likes of Pakistan.

S&P left the outlook negative, suggesting there may even be worse to come.

“Emergency loans from European countries or the IMF would definitely help Ukraine. The Fund gave Kiev $US four billion of ‘standby credit’, but is holding back from further handouts. The current political instability and a high level of corruption in the country make the situation even worse. A sovereign default is now an entirely possible scenario,” Aleksandr Razuvaev says.

http://www.russiatoday.com/Top_News/2009-03-02/Financial_forecast_for_Eastern_Europe_following_bailout_failure.html

[Eddo211]

Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

jgk3,

I appreciate your noble efforts to moderate this thread but I will politely decline to discuss aviation related matters in a separate thread with such an emotional poster who misunderstands my posts and thinks I am disagreeing with him (when there is no fundamental disagreement).

Anyways, I wish him the best of luck in his career.

All in good fun aghper jan.

Thanks for the good luck but I must warn y’ll…..stay the hell away from aviation; not enough pay and way too much responsibility.

Sheers

[ZORAVAR]

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Armenian PM invites Russia's Putin to visit Yerevan

YEREVAN, February 28 (RIA Novosti) - Armenian Prime Minister Tigran Sargsyan said Saturday that during his working visit to Moscow on Friday he invited his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin to visit Armenia.

"Putin accepted my invitation and we hope this year we will receive the Russian prime minister," Sargsyan said, adding that the visit would become an impetus to implement the programs on which mutual agreements have been reached.

The Armenian premier said Russian First Deputy Prime Minister Viktor Zubkov and Deputy Prime Minister Dmitry Kozak have also been invited.

At Friday's meeting, Putin said Russia will grant Armenia a $500 million loan following approval by the lower house.

"We have almost finished working on the issue of granting Armenia a $500 million loan, we are implementing this agreement. The budget should be approved by the State Duma. I hope this will be completed in the near future," he told Sargsyan.

Russia and Armenia signed a preliminary agreement on the stabilization loan on February 9. In line with the agreement, the loan is granted for 15 years with a four-year grace period.

http://en.rian.ru/world/20090228/120356186.html

[ZORAVAR]

Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

jgk3,

I appreciate your noble efforts to moderate this thread but I will politely decline to discuss aviation related matters in a separate thread with such an emotional poster who misunderstands my posts and thinks I am disagreeing with him (when there is no fundamental disagreement).

Anyways, I wish him the best of luck in his career.

[jgk3]

Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

It is unfortunate to see a brewing discord between the two of you, you each represent great pools of knowledge that are essencial to balancing the forces of inanity on these forums.

If you wish to continue this argument about aviation, I will go ahead and make a new thread for it. Pm me if you have any comments or suggestions, I don't want this thread to go any further off track.

[Eddo211]

Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

You sound like the typical raptor fanboy that I often come accross. Too much hype about that bird. Don't be blinded by the massaged/manipulated/over-optimistic/propagandish info released about the F-22.

Your information (which seems to be limited to the internet) and knowledge of stealth is mirroring what positive info the US wants to release about the F-22. Be carefull, all these have an agenda (propaganda, politics, economics etc.) same things can be said about the Russians and others.

By the way, this thread is not the place to discuss aviation matters. If you want to continue these discussions, send me PM.

Why would I PM you? I don’t even like you man.

You are the one who wants to turn this into a pissing contest.
I like both Aircraft but I believe the YF-22 is more superior. Aviation is my career and my life……but you are right, this is not the place to post aviation related subjects.

[ZORAVAR]

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Russia to grant Armenia $500 mln loan - PM Putin

MOSCOW, February 27 (RIA Novosti) - Russia will grant Armenia a $500 million loan following approval by the lower house, the Russian prime minister said Friday.

"We have almost finished working on the issue of granting Armenia a $500 million loan, we are implementing this agreement. The budget should be approved by the State Duma. I hope this will be completed in the near future," Vladimir Putin told his Armenian counterpart Tigran Sargsyan.

Russia and Armenia signed a preliminary agreement on the stabilization loan on February 9. In line with the agreement, the loan is granted for 15 years with a four-year grace period.

Opening the meeting with his Armenian counterpart in his country residence, Putin said "steady contacts are maintained practically on all levels."

"I note with pleasure that despite all the difficulties, our trade turnover last year grew by 10%; good projects in the energy and transportation spheres are being implemented," he said.

In turn, Sargsyan said the co-chairmen of an intergovernmental commission who met in Moscow on Friday "touched upon all questions of mutual interest and reached an agreement on all issues."

"We assess the work of our colleagues very highly," he added.

Sargsyan also expressed hope that Russia's aid would help Armenia overcome the consequences of the global financial crisis.

"This is a serious sum for us, and I am convinced that as a result of the financial aid provided by you, we will be able to overcome the negative consequences of the global crisis. And I am certain that this money will help thousands of companies with Russian capital operate effectively," he said.

[ZORAVAR]

Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

ZORAVAR

The Raptor is not just stealthier, damn thing is completely stealth. It has a Radar signature of a flying goose. Even the most powerful Russian jamming device that would ......

You sound like the typical raptor fanboy that I often come accross. Too much hype about that bird. Don't be blinded by the massaged/manipulated/over-optimistic/propagandish info released about the F-22.

Your information (which seems to be limited to the internet) and knowledge of stealth is mirroring what positive info the US wants to release about the F-22. Be carefull, all these have an agenda (propaganda, politics, economics etc.) same things can be said about the Russians and others.

By the way, this thread is not the place to discuss aviation matters. If you want to continue these discussions, send me PM.

[KarotheGreat]

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Russia is using financial reserves to assist its strategic allies

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ Russian analysts think that the world economic crisis is an internal challenge for Russia as well as posing obstacles for the integration of structures and bilateral alliances in the CIS.

Despite being in crisis Russia has started using its financial reserves to assist its strategic allies. For instance it has promised to allot Armenia USD 500 thousand million as a stabilization credit. Kyrgyzstan will receive assistance worth USD 2 billion. Belarus has already received USD 1 billion, half of the promised amount. There are also negotiations being held about issuing USD 5 billion in credit to Ukraine as well. The analysts think that Russia does not actually want to issue these credits but is being forced to in order to retain its influence and the prospect of further strengthening its position, as neighboring countries might otherwise reorient their politics towards Washington and Brussels.

If Moscow can actually afford such large scale assistance to neighboring countries this shows it really can become a leader in reality rather than words. In order to bolster this impression Russia is proposing different initiatives, for instance recently the Kremlin initiated a multi-aspect agreement between CIS countries concerning free trade. However the possible inability of its allies to repay these loans represents a risk for Russia.

For Moscow it is of vital importance to ensure the uninterrupted transit of its energy to consuming countries. Therefore although Russia faces serious challenges its political leadership is prepared to take these risks, The Messenger Online reports.

http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=28971