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  • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

    Mark my words; to much my tears and unrest and not being able to sleep, Israel with the help of the US and the way Russia feels not much at all about us, there will not be any Armenia for any of you guys to visit within 10 years; considering the way things are and the way things are heading to.

    Unless right now and right away Armenia rises and gets rid of their supreme government and put instead a head of their sovereign state - a government who is ultimately and above all super nationalistic!
    Last edited by Anoush; 09-02-2009, 05:08 PM.

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    • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

      Originally posted by Anoush View Post
      Mark my words; to much my tears and unrest and not being able to sleep, Israel with the help of the US and the way Russia feels not much at all about us, there will not be any Armenia for any of you guys to visit within 10 years; considering the way things are and the way things are heading to.

      Unless right now and right away Armenia rises and gets rid of their supreme government and put instead a head of their sovereign state - a government who is ultimately and above all super nationalistic!
      It will be a province of the new EU aka Roman Empire.
      "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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      • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

        ow pls what the hell are u saying,i raise my hands from where u have those ideas?
        U believe that Armenia now and before are or will be stronger before the protocol?

        Simple maths 1-1=0 get it ?


        People just for once keep in ur mind just for once pls,the fundamental starts of basic politics and international relations before post about something irrelevant .
        Last edited by UrMistake; 09-02-2009, 05:14 PM.

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        • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

          Originally posted by UrMistake View Post
          ow pls what the hell are u saying,i raise my hands from where u have those ideas?
          U believe that Armenia now and before are or will be stronger before the protocol?

          Simple maths 1-1=0 get it ?


          People just for once keep in ur mind just for once pls,the fundamental starts of basic politics and international relations before post about something irrelevant
          Its not irrelevant. Its basic mathematic. Genocide denial "fait a complit" by turkey. Signing the Kars Treaty; again they will make it "fait a complit" if and when Sargsyan signs that protocol; and then turkey will see to it that "azerbaijan" has their ways. turkey will see to that too. When Sargsyan is such a willing and abiding to turkeys full and complete demands party.

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          • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

            Originally posted by Anoush View Post
            Its not irrelevant. Its basic mathematic. Genocide denial "fait a complit" by turkey. Signing the Kars Treaty; again they will make it "fait a complit" if and when Sargsyan signs that protocol; and then turkey will see to it that "azerbaijan" has their ways. turkey will see to that too. When Sargsyan is such a willing and abiding to turkeys full and complete demands party.
            Its speculations of yours,no Kars treaty is in the documents nor the Genocide which mostly turks dont wont to talk about if they where then they will make hell of the noise about it.

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            • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

              You can see that I am writing with complete disgust and unrest, but since there is no real manly and good politicians in our homeland; then what do you wish me to say. They are anything but good politicians in RA. I can see that now. The people are mostly hungry and are not rising. The politicians suck. And all of that to our demease. Yes I am writing because I am disgusted, I have not much hope any more unless we all rise and I don't see that from the people in our Republic nor do I see our political parties in the Diaspora doing anything substantial for our homeland's behalf. So yes I am appaled and disgusted with what is going on.

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              • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

                Just to remind u that diaspora and the oposition like to see open borders but afraid that there is hiden preconditions,

                the fact that u are disgusted well its in some points irrelevant,since u dont vote in armenia nor the leading political party promised to you something but they win in elections promising to armenian people,
                there is explanation for the behaviour of our countrie that is directly connected to our rich and how much power it,has taking in account all the others and compare,

                Since all the nations are blind and deaf and all pursuit there own benefit,and that is an anarchy among the non stop change of political system that is never stable.

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                • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

                  Originally posted by UrMistake View Post
                  Just to remind u that diaspora and the oposition like to see open borders but afraid that there is hiden preconditions,

                  the fact that u are disgusted well its in some points irrelevant,since u dont vote in armenia nor the leading political party promised to you something but they win in elections promising to armenian people,
                  there is explanation for the behaviour of our countrie that is directly connected to our rich and how much power it,has taking in account all the others and compare,

                  Since all the nations are blind and deaf and all pursuit there own benefit,and that is an anarchy among the non stop change of political system that is never stable.
                  Yes I am here and they are there and they can vote, but that's why they the people should know what is going on.... and the only party I see that is doing something anything substantial is the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Tashnagtsoutyoun) May God Bless Tashnagtsoutyoun. For without them there will not be Armenia or Artsakh lands in the future. That's what I see from my picture here in the Diaspora. The ARF are also letting the people know what's going on in their country and they are not asleep thank goodness. They are letting the people rise on their feet and oppose the government too by demonstrations. Only Tashnagtsoutyoun, they are the only true ones.
                  Last edited by Anoush; 09-02-2009, 06:23 PM.

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                  • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

                    They are mistaken in the past and that once where when we paid the biggest price ever,
                    Dashnakoutsioun have its own mechanisms,and the guarantors of armenian its not a single partie
                    from ur comment u image all other armenians like morons that dont care about them selfs,
                    Army and the elected government and all other governmental mechanism is the one that will work for that task,give aside the church and the constitution of family.

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                    • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

                      Anoush you are thinking with your emotions. If arf was so good and knew what it was doing it would be in power but...The treaties previously signed are meaningless, it is the powerful countries who decide who does what and to go against them is suicide. As usual everyone is panicking prematurly. Just chill and lets see what happens, we may all be surprised at the end.
                      Hayastan or Bust.

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