When we get East Anatolia back...

[ArmenianKid]

Re: When we get East Anatolia back...

btw what can i do if german ladies like turkish xxxx

When i was stationed in germany all the turks ever did was sell drugs, roam the streets and try to jump US soldiers.

See how i said TRY?

[gmd]

Re: When we get East Anatolia back...

Any of those choices would make us as bad as them.

And since when do we have the power to retake it from the turks? Thats right. we don't.

Armenia has a out dated military on all fronts. And a very very small force at that. Turkey has US backing and a very large standing force.

If you weren't thinking of taking them back by force, again it wouldn't work because Turkey isn't just going to give them to us.

In short, not gonna happen.

And the way most of you speak you want revenge on the Turks. Well i can't lie i do to. But it would make us as bad as them. How could we be the better people if we do such terrible things?

I do not see revenge (avenging the attrocites committed against us) necessarily including the planned massacre of Turkish civilians. What is/should be discussed is a concerted effort and focus of our nation to the eventual reclaiming of what is ours, and in the process having justice for our butchered nation. As for what Armenia is today and what it could be; more importantly what and where Turkey is headed... that is a matter of time. If we are focused and patient we can change the circumstances of our existence.
We can't give up before we start. That is what led us to where we are.

[Gazan]

Re: When we get East Anatolia back...

Armenia has a out dated military on all fronts. And a very very small force at that. Turkey has US backing and a very large standing force.

In short, not gonna happen.

And the way most of you speak you want revenge on the Turks. Well i can't lie i do to. But it would make us as bad as them. How could we be the better people if we do such terrible things?

I think you got a very limited knowledge of what our military has and what it hasn't. And yet, despite that you make such a rudiculous statement. I'm not at liberty to discuss what I know but I can tell you this much: In conjunction with Russia, we have "things" that not only turks but even the americans can only dream about. Currently americans are entering their 22nd year of research in order to create at least something similar to what Russians have. Pay attention to the word "similar". In that particular field the yanks didn't even reach the level the Russians did over 20 years ago, in other words they got absolutely no equal weapon let alone something that can beat the Russian creation.

Secondly comparing our military with turkish military is like comparing apples and oranges. The fact that they both call "military" means nothing, they are two very different organisations with their specific strengths and weaknesses. I ask people to forget about their (turkish) so-called "1 million strong army" etc and concentrate on the fact that the war will not be strickly between us and turks, it will be a regional war with a tendency of a globar war. We will be a major player in that war but we will not have others shedding their blood for our interests unless ours and theirs is common. We will have to do most of the fighting etc ourselfs, if we don't then we will end up losing what we have as well.

As for revenge and comparing us with them saying we are no better than they are if we would seek revenge on them: I have to say to you that I have heard this bul-l-sh-i-t so many times from so many specially diasporan Armenians that I'm sick and tired of it. To have a view like that is such a gutlessness, such a disgusting cowardice and treason to the memory of our people and to the future of our children.

Half of the turks is the price of the murder they have commited. We should also strive to achieve the destruction of their country, which will be easier to achieve after 30 million turks will be wiped out by an unknown desease. Then we shall participate in a creation of a new turkey!

[TomServo]

Re: When we get East Anatolia back...

Our benevolent neighbor(s):

[Otto3]

Re: When we get East Anatolia back...

that map means nothing... looks like it has been prepared by some kids who knows a little photoshop. wannabe wolfie puppies

[Selpak]

Re: When we get East Anatolia back...

he forgot to erase "Armeniam" from map.

[Orlandu]

Re: When we get East Anatolia back...

I guess we have yet to decide their fate.

What about Kurds?Would not they be an useful utensil for the eradication of a bunch of creatures,which is the aim of the whole world.

[Orlandu]

Re: When we get East Anatolia back...

Look at Kurds in Iraq.They have been trying to get their dependence for year and they are now about to attain that goal,despite Turkey's expected opposition,which she tries upon every nation.
God is paying us back what He has taken through His humanic demons,Turks.

[Gazan]

Re: When we get East Anatolia back...

I will describe you the turkey of the future without any photoshops.

- The population of turks in turkey will be halved due to the war, diseases and emigration.

- Kurds of turkey and Iraq will have under a special UN mandate their own country, which will eventually become an independent kurdish state but with very heavy foreign influence (both western and eastern).

- Armenia will restore it's borders roughly according to treaty of sevres, minus access to the black sea.

- Armenia will no longer have a common border with turkey, Kurds will be our new neighbours on the west.

- The new turkey, which will be helped to rise out of the ashes by the same forces who destroyed it, will be a VERY different to the present turkey. For example the attitude towards attaturk will be the same as it is the attitude towards stalin and lenin in present day russia. It will be ruled by a new generation of completely westernised turks who will strive to build a modern, prosperous and peaceful country.

[crusader1492]

Re: When we get East Anatolia back...

I will describe you the turkey of the future without any photoshops.

- The population of turks in turkey will be halved due to the war, diseases and emigration.

- Kurds of turkey and Iraq will have under a special UN mandate their own country, which will eventually become an independent kurdish state but with very heavy foreign influence (both western and eastern).

- Armenia will restore it's borders roughly according to treaty of sevres, minus access to the black sea.

- Armenia will no longer have a common border with turkey, Kurds will be our new neighbours on the west.

- The new turkey, which will be helped to rise out of the ashes by the same forces who destroyed it, will be a VERY different to the present turkey. For example the attitude towards attaturk will be the same as it is the attitude towards stalin and lenin in present day russia. It will be ruled by a new generation of completely westernised turks who will strive to build a modern, prosperous and peaceful country.

If you are at liberty to do so, could you elaborate on your above projections. I would especially like to know why you think that Armenia would not get access to the Black sea once it's borders are restored to treaty of sevres.