Armenian Georgian Relations

[Doctor]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

If Azeries will start the war against Armenia, it would be perfect time for Russia to carry out the plan, you pointed out. Using the fact that Georgia is trying to help Azeries and Ajaria, Javakh minorities discrimination. At that point, other strong arguments would be available, too.

I see Georgia badly needs another medical/military operation!

[ninetoyadome]

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Georgia and Azerbaijan will celebrate the Day of Brotherhood
League of Georgian structures in the Republic of Azerbaijan declared 6 February "Happy fraternity Azerbaijanis and Georgians." According to Azerbaijani media, this day will be celebrated annually conduct activities on a broad scale.

For the annual events on the occasion of the brotherhood will be established Organizing high-level committee. Decided to hold a celebration of one year in Baku, one in Tbilisi and then in Ganja and Kutaisi.

The league was founded in 2005 with a view to strengthening coordination of functioning in Azerbaijan, Georgian structures.

/ Times.am /

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[arakeretzig]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Georgia and Azerbaijan will celebrate the Day of Brotherhood
League of Georgian structures in the Republic of Azerbaijan declared 6 February "Happy fraternity Azerbaijanis and Georgians." According to Azerbaijani media, this day will be celebrated annually conduct activities on a broad scale.

For the annual events on the occasion of the brotherhood will be established Organizing high-level committee. Decided to hold a celebration of one year in Baku, one in Tbilisi and then in Ganja and Kutaisi.

The league was founded in 2005 with a view to strengthening coordination of functioning in Azerbaijan, Georgian structures.

/ Times.am /
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...D05OBsqcOovGqg

what's wrong with these people? Everytime I think of georgia, I think of the old saying "You're digging your own grave".

[Mos]

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Brotherhood? That's ridiculous...

[Nare]

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With who are you going to fulfill your plans if Armenian is being depopulated, if people are leaving the country on daily bases?

[gegev]

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what's wrong with these people? Everytime I think of georgia, I think of the old saying "You're digging your own grave".

This is exactly the case!

[Armanen]

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With who are you going to fulfill your plans if Armenian is being depopulated, if people are leaving the country on daily bases?

Have you been reading armenianow.com?

[Nare]

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Have you been reading armenianow.com?

No.

Are you trying to say we are not experiencing depopulation problems in Armenia?

[Armanen]

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I'm trying to say it is not as dire as some people are making it out to be. Furthermore, azerbaijan, and georgia are having similar issues, so we are not the only ones with this issue.

[Setta]

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Hi guys,

Three questions:

1. Re: the following article: Does anyone know if the "professor" Guram Markhuliya is a Georgian Christian or an Azerbaijani living and working in Georgia?
2. Was Adjaria ever inhabited or occupied by Armenia in ancient or modern times?
3. What is the attitude of the Adjarians towards Armenians? Are they hostile, disinterested, dismissive, etc? Does our interaction with the Adjarians resemble more closely our relationship with the Turks and Azeris or our relationship with the Iranians and Lebanese? If they received increased cultural independence, freedom of expression, and economic benefit under an Armenian realpolitik, how virulently would they resist a central government located in Yerevan rather than Tiblisi? How loyal will they be to Georgia if they are guaranteed autonomy from the Armenians that also includes an exponential improvement in their lives?

Armenians mislead by replacing real history with myths - Georgian professor

Tue 01 February 2011 | 05:23 GMT

News.Az interviews Georgian historian, professor of the Sukhumi State University Guram Markhuliya.

I would start my conversation with the direct question. Is the current Republic of Armenia the historical land of Armenians?

The present-day Armenia consists of the historical regions of Georgia and Azerbaijan. Scientists from different countries have not come to a single opinion about localization of the home of Armenians. The search continues.

What does the present-day Armenian state have to do with Cilicia which existed in the 14th century?

The present-day Armenia and Armenians have nothing to do with Cilicia. In 1045 the Byzantine empire terminated the old and unnecessary Anisian kingdom, while the population was partly moved and partly deported and settled in different internal parts of the empire, a significant part of Armenians moved to the Georgian borders, weeping �save and give us shelter, our Georgian brothers! In some period, a definite part of Armenians turned out to be in Cilicia. The Armenian population in Cilicia, created their religious catholicosate, the church figures became the leaders of Armenian people in this sphere. Ruben I became the first Catholicos of Armenian settlers in Cilicia in 1080 and later Armenian historians raised the religious leaders to the rank of princes and when their fancy broke even looser they called them tsars. Thus the Cilician Armenian state appeared thanks to the �powerful� historians of Armenia. Armenians are still searching their homeland in Azerbaijan, Georgia, Turkey and other countries. The strife to establish the Karabakh state, Javakheti autonomy for the further proclamation of this area as an Azerbaijani state is also the proof. It is possible to suggest with irony that the Armenian �intellectuals� also plan to create the Cuban Armenian Republic, Armenian Republic of Makharashtra in India, and Gujarakert Republic in Gujarat state.

So, if we start speaking about the scientific fantasies of Armenian �scientists�, how can you comment on the statements of Yerevan professor Suren Ayvazyan that Great Britain owes Armenia a billion in an unknown currency and that he planned to sent a letter to queen Elizabeth the Second to at the Buckingham Palace with the demand to return the treasury of the Cilician Armenian state to Armenia?

As far as I know, Suren Ayvazyan sent this letter to the English queen in 2001, but I have no idea of the response sent to Yerevan. In addition, this appeal was published in Kommersant newspaper in 2001. I can imagine the frustration of Suren Ayvazyan after my suggestion but I do not think that the archives of the Buckingham palace has held the intensive search of the �lost check� with the signatures of royal figures-Levon IV and Richard II throughout 10 years since 2001. On the whole, I think with the well-known British humor, I am afraid this Armenian joke was not understood in Great Britain.

Unfortunately, this is not the only Armenian joke. How can you comment on Ayvazyan�s study, according to which �Anglo-Saxons moved from Armenia to British isles in 15-10th centuries BC from the Angle-tin province of Fourth Armenia of the Great Armenia?

There is no doubt that Mr.Ayvazyan used the invaluable manuscripts kept in Matenadaran while studying this issue. According to them, had it not been for �Great Armenians�, the humankind would have stuck in the Stone Age. While informing the world community about this purely Armenian vision of history, Suren Ayvazyan covers the dark sides of the world history with his torch, big like an Armenian nose. This Armenian geologists really believes that the word of three letters �ARM� is under jurisdiction of the ARMenian people. All the same, it is �missed� that we do not know where the Fourth Armenia and khais, like Armenians call themselves, located in the 15-10th centuries BC.

What is the main goal of all historical falsifications of Armenians?

Earlier you asked what the Armenian state has to do with Cilicia which existed in the 14th century. The fact that you asked this question proves the successful and productive work of the Armenian propaganda, spreading the historical lie. There has never been the Cilician Armenian state in history, however, the Armenian propaganda did what it wanted and I do not exclude that in some time such Armenian opuses like the myths of Suren Ayvazyan and people like him, will become a real history for ignorant people. It is this way that Armenians were misleading the world by replacing the real history with their own myths. This is how the concepts like Great Armenia, Armenian upland, Armenian plant and many others appeared together with the Cilician Armenian state, though, in fact there are no such geographical notions.

Akper Hasanov
News.Az