Armenian Georgian Relations

[arakeretzig]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Guys, what happened happened, nothing you can do to change it. Look forward to the future, and learn from the past mistakes.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Guys, what happened happened, nothing you can do to change it. Look forward to the future, and learn from the past mistakes.

Exactly, and to learn from the past you need to know how things occurred in the past, or else you will learn the wrong lessons.

[Eddo211]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

With who are you going to fulfill your plans if Armenian is being depopulated, if people are leaving the country on daily bases?

Well the idea is that by getting an access to the Black Sea (and or a possible border with Russia) Armenia's economy would get a boost and that would encourage more people to stay in Armenia.

Also Geogia cannot be trusted but can be used to our advantage against the Turks and Azeris...meaning whatever confidental deals you make with them it will be known to Turkey ( Sakawoody would be on the phone to Ankara).
Deception is the key.

[Mos]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Exactly, and to learn from the past you need to know how things occurred in the past, or else you will learn the wrong lessons.

One thing we must learn, is not to rely on any power. We have to be suspicious of every body, even Russia. We are a small country, with little natural resources, we are a small bargaining chip to the big powers, who can sell us in a heartbeat. We can never trust anybody fully, and we must always remember our enemies and never forget.

[Tigranakert]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

One thing we must learn, is not to rely on any power. We have to be suspicious of every body, even Russia. We are a small country, with little natural resources, we are a small bargaining chip to the big powers, who can sell us in a heartbeat. We can never trust anybody fully, and we must always remember our enemies and never forget.

It's not about relying, but about using. There is much more potential to use Russia's ''powers'' and ''support'' than most of the Western countries. In the end, we are not superman or batman, we need ''allies'' (definition may defer), and history and present times have time after time proven Russia to be the most ''reliable'' of them all. I will not accept people putting Russia in the same line as America or other Western countries, because they are not.

Long live the Russian Federation!

[Mos]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

It's not about relying, but about using. There is much more potential to use Russia's ''powers'' and ''support'' than most of the Western countries. In the end, we are not superman or batman, we need ''allies'' (definition may defer), and history and present times have time after time proven Russia to be the most ''reliable'' of them all. I will not accept people putting Russia in the same line as America or other Western countries, because they are not.

Long live the Russian Federation!

Of course Russia is a solid ally, but just because they are an ally doesn't mean we shouldn't be suspicious of their intentions. We are to them a strategic territory in the South Caucasus. That's it really. If allying themselves with Azerbaijan or another country will benefit them more than allying with us, they will sell us. It's like any other super power, they look after their own interests first, and it doesn't matter what external countries get in the way. Doesn't matter who it is, all such powers pursue whatever policy will benefit them the most. At the moment, have a deep military alliance with us is beneficial to Russian (and to us), let's hope that stays, but we shouldn't get to comfortable and believe it will always be like that. Alliances are dynamic after-all.

[Armanen]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Of course Russia is a solid ally, but just because they are an ally doesn't mean we shouldn't be suspicious of their intentions. We are to them a strategic territory in the South Caucasus. That's it really. If allying themselves with Azerbaijan or another country will benefit them more than allying with us, they will sell us. It's like any other super power, they look after their own interests first, and it doesn't matter what external countries get in the way. Doesn't matter who it is, all such powers pursue whatever policy will benefit them the most. At the moment, have a deep military alliance with us is beneficial to Russian (and to us), let's hope that stays, but we shouldn't get to comfortable and believe it will always be like that. Alliances are dynamic after-all.

If Russia wishes to lose it's northern Caucasus it will abandon Armenia. However, I don't think they wish this to happen so they will keep Armenia very close.

More on this later, but think about the above statement Mos.

[Mos]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

If Russia wishes to lose it's northern Caucasus it will abandon Armenia. However, I don't think they wish this to happen so they will keep Armenia very close.

More on this later, but think about the above statement Mos.

Well, I hope so. But who knows, maybe one day Azeris jump on Russia lap, and agree to give all oil/gas in exchange for such ally status and breaking relations with us. Anything is possible, we should just keep our eyes open.

[Eddo211]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Well, I hope so. But who knows, maybe one day Azeris jump on Russia lap, and agree to give all oil/gas in exchange for such ally status and breaking relations with us. Anything is possible, we should just keep our eyes open.

The Azeri oil and Gas was discovered by Russians, not that it matters.

Russian aliance is an important part of Armenia's foreign policy especially in defence sector.....however there must be a balance between this aliance and the Armenian sovereignty and maintaning its independance including control of its economy.

[Nare]

Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

Tigranakert...

Get manners, learn how to make discussions, I have dealt a lot with Armenian business and I am not buying your BS...

And bolsheviks are not of some unknown nation, they are the same Russians who imposed their rules on us.

Last 10 years 5.500 Armenians have been killed in Russia by ethnic Russians and backed up by Russian state...

And I thought for Armenians it is Long Live Armenia...