Elections in Armenia

[Virgil]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Again, stop your nonsense. The only person in Armenian that ever seriously thought about giving away any lands has been LTP - no one else. Had you opposed Sarkisian without supporting LTP you would have had some intellectual integrity, since you are supporting a anti-nationalistic, anti-Russian, anti-Artsakh, pro-internationalism, pro-Zionist, pro-Turk, pro-Washington DC puppet.

This is a very good point, its better to not vote at all then to vote for LTP.

[Artsakh]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Stop your stupid none sense. The overall condition of the military in Armenia and Artskah are the best they have ever been. As far as addressing all the issues, of course there are issues to address. The same, however, applies to the mighty armed forces of the United States - there are many-many issues regarding the US armed forces that are not being addressed by the wealthiest nation on earth. Stop your silliness.

Don't be silly and compare the US army to that of Armenia's. The region that armenia is in, there is no alternative but to have the finest army that is always on its toes. An army that is driven by nationalist ideology, on aryan ideology, by the thirst for Turkish and Azerbaijani muslim blood. Like i said, Serje overstepped his boundires by speaking music to azeri turk ears. There is no politics behind his statements--it is a VERY ominious forecast and we must be altert to the dangerous ideology possessed by this man.

Again, stop your nonsense. The only person in Armenian that ever seriously thought about giving away any lands has been LTP - no one else. Had you opposed Sarkisian without supporting LTP you would have had some intellectual integrity, since you are supporting a anti-nationalistic, anti-Russian, anti-Artsakh, pro-internationalism, pro-Zionist, pro-Turk, pro-Washington DC puppet.

Listen, it isn't Levon that i'm supporting. I am supporting anyone that comes out against Serje. In Armenia today, there are some serious Nationalists that, while totally at odds with Der pedrosyan ideologically, would support him over serje if it would mean a regime change.

the Dashnak media would have you believe that every move der pedrosyan made was a sin. I remember everyday the tv said derpedrosyan this and der pedrsoyan that. Why are your "patriotic" dashnak channels silent on the statements of Sarkisyan? if der pedrosyan said that, all hell would have broken loose.

Are you serious? It's because they are in a much more advantageous geopolitical and economic situation, unlike a landlocked, resource-less and tiny Armenia. A five year old could have answered this mindless question of yours.

Dumb as-ss, politics remains politics, whether ur the US that is "fighting and shedding blood to establish peace and democracy in the middle east" or Turkey who is "the model for the rest of the muslim world", who has "suffered at the hands of terrorism" while being a good ally "against the war on terror".

what comes out of Azerbaijan has nothing to do with them being in a better off situation. What they are doing, essentially, is saying, "fu--c@K political correctness". And they do this knowing full well that in the international arena, you appear silly when you claim to be a victim of "armenian aggression" yet it is you who is against peace, and speaks of war.

And if you are such the political genious, then u would understand that their intention is to not solve the conflict by peaceful means. and the only other alternative that is left, my friend, is WAR.

and when the "defense minister" of your enemy speaks of giving back lands, that only encourages more and more aggression from the baboons. Who, by the way, will increase their defense to 1.3 billion us dollars starting in 2008. Meanwhile, the brother of our great defense minister, a former busdriven, has taken millions out of Armenia and bought a delightful multi-million dollar house in California.

[Artsakh]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

and third of all, you are placing too much faith in Armenian-American organizations ability to control Ter-Petrosyan

Bro, which American american organization am i placing faith in? Armenia is an independent country that is fully capable of produing its own leaders, and has no need for diasporans to tell them how to govern themselves. I don't know what you are talking about. The only diasporan structure that attempts to tell Armenia how to govern itself is the failed "Armenian" Revolution Federation. they don't amount to a horses sheet in Armenia, but constantly try to stir up trouble. i still suspect they had a role in the october 27 attacks.

Ter-Petrosyan is a degenerate tratior that needed to be hung, he should not be given a second chance and anyone that gives him a second chance is pissing on national moral.

Dear friend, i agree with you. I am no fan of this mother-fu$ker. I dont like the choices for president. and its too early to tell anyway. we don't yet know who the main challanger of serje will be. But if der pedrosyan emerges as the only candidate who can possibly defeat serje, i would support his candidacy. An end to this regime is essential one way or the other.

[Lernakan]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

VETERANS OF WAR ARE DISSATISFIED WITH SAMVEL BABAYAN

Lragir, Armenia
Nov 27 2007

Last week, after the conference of the Dashink Party on November
24 the NKR ex-minister of defense Samvel Babayan accused Levon
Ter-Petrosyan's government of crimes committed during the war and
promised to reveal facts. At the same time, he said Serge Sargsyan
was not expulsed from Karabakh during the war but he was in Moscow
with an important mission - he supplied the forces with weapons. We
have learned that Samvel Babayan's statements caused deep indignation
and dissatisfaction among most veterans of war who met yesterday and
discussed Samvel Babayan's words. We have learned that Ter-Petrosyan
has called them to stay calm and sensible, promising to release some
facts on those years during the upcoming rally.

[Lernakan]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

LEVON TER-PETROSIAN IS A DEAD POLITICIAN AND CANNOT BE A CANDIDATE, SAYS PARUYR HAIRIKIAN
By Nairi Muradian

AZG Armenian Daily
28/11/2007

During a meeting at the "Mirror" political club, Yerevan, head of
"National Self-Determination Union" party Paruyr Hayrikian made
comments on the on the roles and function of present Armenian statesmen
and political figures, as well as the parliamentary and forthcoming
presidential elections.

"There is no doubt that the parliamentary elections have been
'swallowed'. The world society has admitted that the elections had
been held properly. In case such kind of elections are to be held
again and if during the parliamentary elections the Republican Party
and the 'Prosperous Armenia' party gained 70% of votes, this time
they shall need only 51%. The question of the venerable Candidate
is solved beforehand. We obey the Constitution, and the Constitution
reminds us of not only the problem of presidential elections, but of
elections in general.

And the issue of the elections is already solved in prospect for 5
years at least. The authority belongs to 'Prosperous Armenia' and
the Republican Party," said the party leader.

Referring to the candidacy of Levon Ter-Petrosian Hairikian said,
"Ter-Petrosian is just another candidate, a dead one for a sensible
elector, actually. A dead political figure cannot be a candidate. A
politician, who has been 'dead' for 10 years, suggests his candidacy
for the presidential chair. Electing the dead we become a dead people."

[Armenian]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Don't be silly and compare the US army to that of Armenia's blah blah blah blah blah blah blah...

This is where I am going to stop debating this issue with you. We have made our stance public. Based on your none-sense you have proven to me you are irrational, illogical and mentally ill. And like it or not Sarkisian will be the next president of the Armenian Republic and a few years from now you will look back at this thread and feel like a hapless little mouse.

[Armenian]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

LEVON TER-PETROSIAN IS A DEAD POLITICIAN AND CANNOT BE A CANDIDATE, SAYS PARUYR HAIRIKIAN

Samvel Babayan accused Levon
Ter-Petrosyan's government of crimes committed during the war and
promised to reveal facts. At the same time, he said Serge Sargsyan
was not expulsed from Karabakh during the war but he was in Moscow
with an important mission - he supplied the forces with weapons.

These are two very well known individuals who also happen to be strongly against the ruling administration in Yerevan. The point of the matter is, regardless of how 'corrupt' Serge Sarkisian has been - LTP is a treasonous criminal working for western interests. LTPs Turkophilia is enough to get him hanged, as far as I'm concerned. His closest aide, Aleksander Arzumanian, was a TARC member. LTP's other close aide was none other than the fugitive criminal Vano Siradeghyan. The case against LTP is very long and colorful. As a result, this means that LTP's supporters are either 'extremely' ignorant of politics - or are treasonous agents of the West. It's easy for any western intelligence agency to gather together a few troubled retards in the street and manipulate their actions to their benefit. And the terms (code words) that are used by these foreign interest to manipulate the ignorant sheeple are: The current leaders are corrupt (corruption is ubiquitous); the nation desperately needs democracy/freedom (democracy/freedom does not exits anywhere on earth); the nation will have a better economic situation, a lot of employment and peace if you elect presidential candidate X (a lie, for it never works out that way).

[Virgil]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

It's easy for any western intelligence agency to gather together a few troubled retards in the street and manipulate their actions to their benefit. And the terms (code words) that are used by these foreign interest to manipulate the ignorant sheeple are: The current leaders are corrupt (corruption is ubiquitous); the nation desperately needs democracy/freedom (democracy/freedom does not exits anywhere on earth); the nation will have a better economic situation, a lot of employment and peace if you elect presidential candidate X (a lie, for it never works out that way).

So true, so true, apprently the Turks buying off American votes is not considered a threat to "democracy", bullxxxx, this is a more sophisticated way of corrupting the polical ladder, Americans just pretend it does not exist.

[Artsakh]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

This is where I am going to stop debating this issue with you. We have made our stance public. Based on your none-sense you have proven to me you are irrational, illogical and mentally ill. And like it or not Sarkisian will be the next president of the Armenian Republic and a few years from now you will look back at this thread and feel like a hapless little mouse.

Its interesting how when one comes to a dead end, all they do is resort to personal insults, which is all you've been doing thus far. for someone supposedly educated, you are sure of a backward arab mentality. You're pretty tough beind a computer monitor. but If you'd like to meet me in person and say that to my face, name the time and the place. But knowing you, you'd probably PUUS-SSYYYY out like the coward that you are, just like you PU--USSIED out of meeting Adolph Kevorkian.

Speaking of "mental illness", you should to step out and get some fresh air once in a while. You're on that thing 24/7, haven't you got a life besides cyber space? i know, why don't you go f$$K your wife?

you are irrational and illogical in comparing armenian army and US army. the US is not located in a region where it has to worry about its very existance. A messup in faraway iraq by us military is not going to affect the US mainland one way or the other. However, a political crisis in Yerevan, such as the october 27 events, could result in a suprise attack on armenia by both azerbaijan and turkey that could prove catastrophic.

Its interesting that someone who steals my political forecasts and uses my analyses has the nerve to accuse me of irrationality.

[Virgil]

Re: Presidential elections 2008 in Armenia

Artsahk, you are being stubborn. You want LTP to win to overthrow Bobby, but by doing so you are putting a more dangerous person in the seat of power, just the idea of LTP running for president again is a slap in the face of the Armenian people, he needs to hang and be dragged in the streets.