Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

[Mukuch]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

I don't know what kind of Dashnak you are, but the ones I know all respect and honor him.

The ones you know do not know the history....

[Mukuch]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

I don’t know where he was but, someone that fought on a thousands of fronts and always marching and charging at first, I don’t think would’ve been afraid to fight one more battle. There’s an Arabic saying: “always excuse the absent who’s not there (or here) to give his side of the story or defend himself from accusations”.

You were challenging his education and his intellect too, what’s that?

There is no need to defend Andranik.... he is alredy a legend. What I am trying to do is to defend the historical truth and people who did not less than Andranik but are forgoten.

[Mukuch]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

Only Mukuch can badmouth Hrant Dink and Andranik because Muckuch is the grand dady of them all. I am no genious but i bet it's people like Muckuch who give Dashnaktsutiun a bad rap.

Tsako, no one did ask your ignorant opinion… I would be surprised if you would pass on this on and do not get in like a broken spoon in the subjects where your slightly limited intellect has nothing to do. go sell used car tires, that what you do best

[Haykakan]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

Muck i don't know where you got used tires from but i know your very good at getting banned because of insulting comments like these. Keep it up Muck, i am getting tired of you already.

[Mukuch]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

Muck i don't know where you got used tires from but i know your very good at getting band because of insulting comments like these. Keep it up Muck, i am getting tired of you already.

Yah go cry to your moderator mama (in PM ofcours)

[Yedtarts]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

The ones you know do not know the history....

I hope you know these people.

His Holiness,Vazken I, Supreme Patriarch and Catholicos of All Armenians- "What we sang a while ago is proof that Andranik is the idol of the Armenian people, and that he has become the symbol of the sacred struggle for the liberation of the motherland. One of the most popular and loved songs today, "Like an eagle over mountains and rocks you soar"(To Andranik) is sung in family circles, at receptions, and on other occasions in Armenia. May God keep the souls of all Andraniks in light; may He give the Armenian people zeal and revitalization to grow strong,to be faitful to the vows of their heroes, and be always ready to continue their work. I come from Armenia with this faith, and with this spirit I offer my prayers here today. Let the memory of the just be blessed forever, Amen".

Avetis Aharonian- "For the Armenian people, Andranik is not a mere person, but the embodiment of a powerful and unshaken thought. Andranik is the idol which our people molded according to their aspirations and ideals."

Nikol Aghbalian- "Andranik's character had 2 basic features: hatred without reservation towards the Turks, and an active and deep love towards the Armenian people- the peasants in particular. His assessments of military situations on the battlefield amounted to prophecy.
Personal life had virtually no place in his thoughts."

Marshal Hovhannes Baghramian- "Let us drink to the memory of this great man, General Andranik is known to each one of our people. He struggled so that we might live, and that struggle was his credo. He became a popular hero,and his memory shall live forever in the memory of generations. I have seen him, and I have fought under his command. He is one of the greatest sons of our nation, and he enjoyed unique popularity."

Anastas Mikoyan- "Sagas were told about Andranik in connection with his heroic exploits during the partisan warfare which he waged against the Sultan's Turkey during the liberation struggles of the Bulgarian people. His chest was decorated with Bulgarian medals of the highest degree. Among the Armenians,his name was honored with wreaths of glory. He also enjoyed undisputed authority within miligary circles."

[Yedtarts]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

Found this too.

In 1915 he was with the Russian army to whose victory in the battle of Dilman he contributed materially. Thanks to his extraordinary valor, 150.000 Armenians of the city of Van, who were engaged in a hopeless struggle of self-defence, were rescued in time. In 1918 he fought against the regular Turkish army, thus, delaying the occupation of Baku with its oil fields. "If the Turks had occupied Baku eight months earlier, the fate of the I World War would have been totally different", writes Von Lundendorf in his me'moires. Also in 1918, May 22-28 during the decisive battle of Sardarabad, he crushed Wahib Pasha's Turkish army at Kara-Kilise and frustrated the Turks' plan to wipe out the few hundred thousand Armenians who had survived the Turkish genocide of 1915.
In 1918 he had certain disagreements with the newly established Armenian government and, full of bitterness and rancor, he left Armenia forever. In Europe and America, where he found well-to-do Armenian colonies, he organized a committee to send relief to the starving population of Armenia, which was trapped on all sides by enemies determined to give her the coup de grace. In a few months time 500.000 dollars and 110.000 pounds sterling were raised. The committee gave Antranik a check for 10.000 pounds sterling to be used for himself and his retired soldiers. He returned the check saying: "There are thousands of orphans in Armenia, who are ingreater need for help than my soldiers".

http://www.geocities.com/andranikpasha/bio.html

[Mukuch]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

I hope you know these people.

I didnt know that Vazgen I, Hovhanes Bagramyan and even Anastas Mikoyan were Dashnaks

[Mukuch]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

Found this too.


http://www.geocities.com/andranikpasha/bio.html

Look I am not going to argue that Andranik was a brave fidain, but there were hundreds like him: Serop, Apo, Arabo... What I was trying to say that Andranik wasnt that general with mind of statesman as everyone tries to describe him...
And certanly he was not such an altruist and servent of his nation how they describe him... He is a legend... an exageration....
Read again the Avetis Aharonians citate you brought, and maybe you will understand what i mean....

[Haykakan]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

Look I am not going to argue that Andranik was a brave fidain, but there were hundreds like him: Serop, Apo, Arabo... What I was trying to say that Andranik wasnt that general with mind of statesman as everyone tries to describe him...
And certanly he was not such an altruist and servent of his nation how they describe him... He is a legend... an exageration....

Yeh he wasnt alturistic, he only fought and put his life on the line hundreds of times for money and recording contracts and movie deals....If we had hundreds of Andraniks we would own turckey today. I wonder do you ever think before you type stuff or does it just pour out as your fingers hit the keys? Thanks so much for acknowledging that he "was a brave fidain" now we can truely honor him p. I am gona go play with my 5 yearold he is more intellectualy stimulating then you.