Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

[Siamanto]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

Here you go again with your dishonesty.

I'm not the type of Armenian who believes in, let alone talks about, physical feature determining "Armenianess". However, you insist on lumping me (and others on this forum who have nothing to do with that school of thought) to be a "skinheads".

Besides your rants on this matter being disingenious, they are also just plain hysterical.

One has to wonder why you are so fixated on this word "skinhead". Also, it's very stange how you use the subject in an attempt to endear yourself with newcomers to the forum.

Take your post above to Yerazhishda for example.

You generalize and villify people of this forum (especially those who respect Armenian) in an attempt to quickly turn newcomers off to those you would deem as "skinheads".

I can only explain your behavior with your insecurities.

In short, I guess the only way you can make friends on this forum is to divide them from the start, before they can form opinions for themselves.
Simply put, you believe that if you can quickly turn newcomers off to the "skinheads", then they will gravitate toward you.

It's all quite pathetic. I'm actually thiking about stopping my replies to you...you need help.

To keep it short - as readers already have enough to judge for themselves:
1- I call you skinheads, because you behave as ones, because you share the same mindset. People are not fools, they can see it
2- Political maneuvering that aims to make friends by dividing is your style, and is illustrated below

I'll put money on TX distancing himself from Siamanto if he chooses t stay here. I'm sure he has to deal with lunatics on a daily basis due to his profession...why would he want to deal with them on his off time in cyber space?

I'm for that. But lets revisit why this thread turned out this way.

First TX comes here with good intentions and is welcomed. Then Armenian, after praising TX, related his innocuous opinion to to him concerning the theory that maintaining an Armenian identity in the diaspora is a dead end.

....Siamnto, in an effort to kiss ass, strokes TX's outburst for all it is worth in order to nip some more at Armenian's heels (her favorite pass-time).

TX, probably not knowing what a jackass Siamanto is, aligns himself with her

I wonder when you will find the wisdom to realize that your desperate attempts to distort the facts, and calumniate to save face will continue to miserably fail.

Accept the fact that you're not intelligent enough for the job, and have the wisdom/courage to stop your desperate attempts to distort realities.

[Armenian]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

Reading up til now I think that I agree with your point of view. No one has to give you permission to be Armenian - only you can identify yourself as one.

I suggest you pull your head out of your ass and allow your brain to get some fresh oxygen. Instead of making your self look stupid go to the first page and start reading what was being discussed here.

What a bunch of boneheads...

[crusader1492]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

Some on here say that w/o an Armenian nation, there are no Armenians. That is b/s. What about the hundreds of years w/o an Armenian state? There were still those who identified themselves as Armenians, spoke the Armenian language, etc. and were essentially "diasporans".

You are viewing reality through rose colored glasses.

Besides unique scenarios like the Armenians of Iran, Armenian identity becomes increasingly watered down through subsequent generations of Armenians in the diaspora. There is no getting around this terminal trend.

[Armenian]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

Cherry picking posts is dishonest, but dishonesty is par for the course when it comes to you and your favorite subject: Armenian.

Enker jan,

I was trying to stay out of this but now I can't. Please stop trying to talk sense to the genetic deformity in question, the anomaly in nature known as Siamanto Why are you even trying to rationalize with someone we all know to be obsessive compulsive and a psychopath. The he/she is on heavy medication and the he/she is obsessed with me He/she probably wants me, in an sick twisted way of course. I have to admit is a bit flattering, in a sick and twisted way of course. Nonetheless, please realize that 'it' lives in an different dimension - the dimension of dementia

Regarding Tex, it is now apparent that he is an asshole. The initial impression he made was good. I fell for it. I now feel like an idiot for complimenting him. I should have sensed him better. I mean how deep or insightful or honest or selfless would a wannabe redneck be? Anyway, soon after his first few posts it became obvious that he simply wanted to be pampered and told just how wonderful and great he is. So when I did not sooth his inflated ego, he got insulting and cocky. The highway predator from the US occupied Mexican province of Texas has a massive ego, a nasty attitude and is totally ignorant of our culture, our history and our politics.

I don't have any patience for such dingbats.

Please let him and the he/she converse to their heart's content.

Anyway dude, thank you from the bottom of my heart for providing me with some excellent father's day entertainment. You're funny as hell!

Now I gotta run back to the children.

[yerazhishda]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

yerazhishda,
They believe that they are far more Armenian than others, they have the authority to tell who is - and who is not - Armenian, and the Armenian Nation will be saved from imminent danger thanks to their "lucidity" and "nationalism????" etc. etc. - the list of their absurd beliefs is too long. So anybody who does not comply is a "traitor" or....
They are a bunch lunatics, hating others - i.e. skinheads.

P.S. LOL They have figured out the "cabalistic arithmetic" that allows them to determine the exact percentage of "armenianness" and rank us.

Reading up til now I think that I agree with your point of view. No one has to give you permission to be Armenian - only you can identify yourself as one. There has been research that shows that ethnic "differences" and "identifications" tend to be primarily social constructs.

The problem to is the super-uber-ultranationalists (I mean what other way is there to describe it) are the ones obsessed with classifiying Armenians and created the "problem" of - «Ո՝վ Հայ մըն է:» It is a false problem. «Մօնդէ Մելզոնեան մը պէտք է որ ըլլալ» կ՛ըսեն: I mean that's ridiculous. The fact that you can now choose to be Armenian by applying for Armenian citizenship is a testament to the fact that being Armenian is not one solid definition.

Some on here say that w/o an Armenian nation, there are no Armenians. That is b/s. What about the hundreds of years w/o an Armenian state? There were still those who identified themselves as Armenians, spoke the Armenian language, etc. and were essentially "diasporans".

Ultranationalism will lead a nation to destruction long-term. The irony is that most ultranationlists who chastise half-Armenians and quarter-Armenians for not repatriating are foreign born themselves and just as culturally not-Armenian as the half and quarter Armenians.

[crusader1492]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

yerazhishda,
They believe that they are far more Armenian than others, they have the authority to tell who is - and who is not - Armenian, and the Armenian Nation will be saved from imminent danger thanks to their "lucidity" and "nationalism????" etc. etc. - the list of their absurd beliefs is too long. So anybody who does not comply is a "traitor" or....
They are a bunch lunatics, hating others - i.e. skinheads.

P.S. LOL They have figured out the "cabalistic arithmetic" that allows them to determine the exact percentage of "armenianness" and rank us.

Here you go again with your dishonesty.

I'm not the type of Armenian who believes in, let alone talks about, physical feature determining "Armenianess". However, you insist on lumping me (and others on this forum who have nothing to do with that school of thought) to be a "skinheads".

Besides your rants on this matter being disingenious, they are also just plain hysterical.

One has to wonder why you are so fixated on this word "skinhead". Also, it's very stange how you use the subject in an attempt to endear yourself with newcomers to the forum.

Take your post above to Yerazhishda for example.

You generalize and villify people of this forum (especially those who respect Armenian) in an attempt to quickly turn newcomers off to those you would deem as "skinheads".

I can only explain your behavior with your insecurities.

In short, I guess the only way you can make friends on this forum is to divide them from the start, before they can form opinions for themselves.
Simply put, you believe that if you can quickly turn newcomers off to the "skinheads", then they will gravitate toward you.

It's all quite pathetic. I'm actually thiking about stopping my replies to you...you need help.

[Siamanto]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

Siamanto,

Even though it would not fit your agenda of defaming Armenian, would you care to post TX's comment that preceded Armenian's last comment to him.

There was a whole exchange that led up to Armenian's final remark to TX.
Cherry picking posts is dishonest, but dishonesty is par for the course when it comes to you and your favorite subject: Armenian.

You have already mentioned page 2, and I said:
"And, as they approach the bottom of the page, they will realize that you have blatantly lied, and are desperately trying to save face by continuing to distort facts; the initial post was nothing but his regular political BS with new members, before he revealed his true feelings, his ill temper.
Unfortunately for you, make believes may work only when they are not too far from reality!"
Let the readers decide; there's no need to endlessly repeat the same.

Why don't find within yourself the courage to admit that your stupid, childish - and unnecessary - attempt to blame it on others have miserably failed; worse, in the process, you had to lie and make a fool of yourself! Do you have the courage?

Not only you're not intelligent enough for the job, you're also too unwise and cowardly to know when to stop and retreat.

[crusader1492]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

Siamanto,

Even though it would not fit your agenda of defaming Armenian, would you care to post TX's comment that preceded Armenian's last comment to him.

There was a whole exchange that led up to Armenian's final remark to TX.
Cherry picking posts is dishonest, but dishonesty is par for the course when it comes to you and your favorite subject: Armenian.

[Siamanto]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

Բոլոր Հայ ենք:

...some more than others.

yerazhishda,
They believe that they are far more Armenian than others, they have the authority to tell who is - and who is not - Armenian, and the Armenian Nation will be saved from imminent danger thanks to their "lucidity" and "nationalism????" etc. etc. - the list of their absurd beliefs is too long. So anybody who does not comply is a "traitor" or....
They are a bunch lunatics, hating others - i.e. skinheads.

P.S. LOL They have figured out a "cabalistic arithmetic" that allows them to determine the exact percentage of "armenianness" and rank us.

[Siamanto]

Re: Just wondering, Thought I share and ask

No, I'm not changing the subject.

Only a liar like you would maintain that post #91 has anything to do with the subject.

Like I said, all one has to do is go to page 2 of this thread.

Like I said:
"And, as they approach the bottom of the page, they will realize that you have blatantly lied, and are desperately trying to save face by continuing to distort facts; the initial post was nothing but his regular political BS with new members, before he revealed his true feelings, his ill temper.
Unfortunately for you, make believes may work only when they are not too far from reality!"

There is nothing to more to say on the matter except to highlight the fact that your version of TX and Armenian's exchange is completely biased due to your hatred of Armenian.

Another desperate lie..and a dumb one, considering that anybody who reads page 2 - that you have mentioned - can see that it was Katchn Nazar's usual ill temper and megalomania. Don't be too stupid to think that people are fools.

Your hatred maked you see things that are not there...now THAT is sad!

Continuing to desperately distort the fact, and calumniate in order to save face? What a coward!
Hatred as in

Listen, stop the BS. You are born in one of the shit holes of the US. Many of the vilest things about the US is represented by Texas. And I believe it's occupied territory and should go back to Mexico. Well, it already is going back to Mexico

See Tex, I can be nasty to. Anyway, I am done with you. One thing I can't tolerate is ignorant individuals with massive egos and an attitude.

Adios gringo

[From another thread]

Most Armenians, in Armenia and in the diaspora, are worthless trash. Until we eradicate this trash...our nation-state will never mount to anything. The biggest obstacle of the Armenian Republic today is Armenians.